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> After reading that you will completely understand why "see how long it is until they protest or move" is a silly thing to say.

I wonder if you could give TL;DR on this, assuming there is something else than the basic prisoner's dilemma going on?



I'd be happy to give a very brief TL;DR with the disclaimer that I recommend either the book for a full picture or the Michael Malice interview on Joe Rogan's podcast (WARNING: NSFW language) [1]

There are a few factors involved (and please bear in mind I'm leaving out a lot of detail here, and this is nowhere near a comprehensive list).

1. There is extensive "brainwashing" regarding the great leader. He is praised for everything. There's a famous story about a western optometrist that performs surgery routine every where else in the world, but rare in N Korea that restores eye sight. The first thing people often do after receiving their sight is not thank the doctor, but to praise a poster of the great leader, thanking him for restoring their sight (I think this was a Nat Geo thing but I don't remember exactly).

2. There is a culture of tattling that heavily incentivizes ratting out your friends and family to the authorities. You will be punished for even having unclean thoughts, let alone taking bad actions. The pervasiveness of this makes it such that people often self-report themselves for thought crimes due to feelings of guilt or concern over getting turned in by friends/family (you may do less time in the prison camp for self-reporting).

3. Families are harshly punished for actions taken by their family members. This means that if you escape, your family will be likely killed or sent to prison camp. If you die in camp, your son/daughter/father/mother will have to take your place to finish your sentence. Thus even suicide/death in prison camp is a betrayal of your family. There is no way out.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B_idqiEoUE


Number 1 was in a Nat Geo documentary with an Asian American presenter (Lucy something?). Something like "Inside North Korea.

IIRC you couldn't tell if they were genuinely thanking the Dear Leader or putting on a show for the secret police.


Thank you. I think I will add the book on my reading list.




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