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Any time you're in an online discussion of US healthcare expenses and use the phrase "11 million illegal immigrants" you've pretty much just placed yourself into a category as far as almost anyone else reading the discussion is concerned.

That may not be what you meant to do and that categorization may not be fair, but it's one of many possible trigger phrases.



Its pretty obvious to anyone who is not looking to get triggered that there is nothing racist nor fingerpointing in what i say. The illegal immigration is used to illustrate one of the things that make the us system wastely different especially from the scandinavian system even though they are always used as an example. Almost every person there is has lived their whole life there.

And given i dont actually give you any other reason to think i am racist its pretty absurd that you decide to make that interpretation of what i say but unfortunately its becoming more and more the norm. Try asking me what i mean next time instead of just throwing words around accusing people you dont know anything about for being racist.


Your comment was making an implied link between the difficulties in the US healthcare system and the 11 million illegal immigrants - whether you intended or not (if you didn't, there'd be next to no reason to bring up illegal immigration at all).

Why would illegal immigration have any impact on healthcare, unless you were implying that they were a drain on the system (which is an assertion needing to be backed up by facts)?


My comment was making an implied link between many different things, illegal immigration being one of them. As it has an impact on the complexity os the US healthcare system and is one of the reasons why you can't just have a Scandinavian model.

There is a world of difference between a small homogenous group of countries where everyone pays more or less the same taxes their whole life and where immigration is fairly limited and then a country like the US where people arrive often later in life after they grew up other places and before they start paying taxes to the system.

Healthcare budgets are built up over decades not just year over year. It's based on people when they are young and don't cost too much for the system pays to the system so that when they grow older they are offset by younger generations again.

11 million people who live partly outside the system even when they pay taxes is a big number and since they live concentrated in around 20 metropolitan areas almost half of them in 3 states that make them an actual issue on top of the other things as they are not just distributed across the entire country.

In what universe it's racist to point out that illegal immigrants adds to the complexity of why the US can't have the scandinavian model is beyond me. You are the only one making illegal immigration a matter of race for some absurd reason.




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