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First of all, if you are going to make a serious comment, don’t stereotype. That’s like saying “all Democrats hate babies” which is obviously a ridiculous statement. There is a plethora of reasons why people are anti-vaccine. For me, I think that the preservatives are incredibly dangerous. If I could buy vaccines without preserves I would gladly pay more and happily give them to my children. The fact that I have to inject my child with additional chemicals not required for the vaccine has me in the anti-vax boat.


Do you have some research to back up the dangers?


“2-phenoxyethanol” “can cause skin and lung irritation. It's also toxic to the kidneys, nervous system, and liver, and repeated, long-term exposure can cause organ damage. It notes that toxic effects can occur through inhalation, skin exposure, and ingestion.”

“Phenoxyethanol is thought to cause central nervous system damage in exposed infants.”

1. http://www.wellnesstoday.com/beauty/phenoxyethanol-in-beauty...

2. https://www.healthline.com/health/phenoxyethanol

This is just 1 example and a quick reference since I’m on my phone, but there are a number of research papers on this chemical. Again, this is just 1 reference, there are a number of chemicals used as preservatives. A good comparison would be spraying vegetables. Harmful chemicals are used. There are good sides and bad sides to spraying, but at the same time there are many people who choose to purchase organic vs non.


> I think that the preservatives are incredibly dangerous.

Which is a statement that is in no way supported by any data we have on the use of vaccines. Facts don't care about what you think.

Your children are many many times more likely to get seriously injured by the diseases prevented by a vaccine, than possible side effects said vaccine.

I don't know how you can go "my gut feeling is better than your statistics" while putting children in measurable danger, then expecting people to be understanding of your position.


Look at the reference above. I clearly stated that I didn’t like X and if they did Y I would promote vaccines. However, HN continues to get more and more toxic by the day. I disagreed with you and you went on full-tilt assault. Shame on you for being so near sighted, directly attacking, and disallowing any conversation. If you would like to argue and be disrespectful, there are many places on reddit for that. I’m sorry that you are upset or just angry, but people enjoy open conversation here.


And the response clearly stated that letting your dislike of X outweigh the clear and evidence-supported benefits of vaccines is an emotional response that increases the risks of bad outcomes for children and not something that others need to be sympathetic to. It certainly wasn't showing you respect but it wasn't toxic, and your response is simply a refusal to engage with someone who says you are wrong disguised as a complaint about not wanting to argue, and a nice ironic little endnote implying that feeling emotions is bad and should not be allowed to interrupt the nice conversations here.

You don't have to engage, and in fact I can't imagine any rational way for you to do so. But you can simply not respond rather than turn the conversation into an attack on the other person.


No, it's you who should feel shame for promoting this toxic FUD about vaccines. People will directly suffer and even die because of anti-vaccer rhetoric like yours.

Seriously, shame on you.




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