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I feel we need to get away from the word 'martyrs'. It glorifies death in service, and turns it into something to be expected; even welcomed.

One live freedom fighter is worth a thousand dead ones.



I was going to disagree, because I thought you were talking about the ones who died in assaults. But I think you're right about the ones who just set themselves on fire in protest. That seems like a bit of an empty gesture.


That "empty gesture" was the spark that caught Tunisia and Egypt…


Right, but to be pedantic it isn't martyrdom. Any more than being killed in an accident is bravery. Media dilutes these words.

Still, they are amazing souls and I pray for success in Egypt.


Care to explain the downvote? I'd be interested to hear the alternate argument. I'm not talking about censorship; I just think the idea that dying can make you more of a hero is counterproductive.




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