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http://twitter.com/Arubin/status/27808662429

  the definition of open: “mkdir android ; cd android ; repo init -u git://android.git.kernel.org/platform/manifest.git ; repo sync ; make”


Well I don't think Google has any choice about releasing their Kernel modifications, Android will still meet this openness criteria.

Or is that what you were saying? If so, that's kind of a silly definition of openness--If you care about the kernel being open source, you probably also care about the rest of the OS. I'm disappointed about the delay, but Android is still way more open than iOS in the ways I care about, i.e., I can run any app I want.


The article states that "Google's evangelists touted it as an open ecosystem" and seems to be taking the position that Google have not lived up to this claim.

All Rubin's tweet indicates is that Android is open source.


was open source.


So Honeycomb is not "open" because you can't download it, I guess you're saying?

It would help if your comment was more than just a quoted tweet.


Sorry, I guess I should have added some context. It was a response to Steve Jobs and was widely publicised on tech blogs at the time.

http://www.pcmag.com/print_article2/0,1217,a=255840,00.asp?h...

Google's Andy Rubin hit back at Steve Jobs Monday with a tweet that touted the openness of Google's Android platform.

Rubin, who serves as vice president of engineering at Google, posted a message to the micro-blogging site that might be somewhat confusing to those not familiar with the ins and out of Android coding.

Translation: Rubin's tweet includes the commands needed to start compiling a copy of Android on a home Linux machine. He's stressing that anyone can develop for, hack, or even create their own version of Android.


I remember the tweet, I just wasn't sure what point you were making by quoting it.

But this does say that by Andy Rubin's own definition of "open", Honeycomb is not "open". Unless there is some big part of this discussion/argument I'm missing, it's not available for download/compiling, right?


Right, this contradiction leads to the realization that Google is, to a certain extent, using "open" selectively as a marketing term without full commitment to the idea.

The thing that makes this so blatant is the succinctness of Rubin's definition of "open".


The new definition of open: "mkdir android ; cd android ; sleep 15778458; repo init -u git://android.git.kernel.org/platform/manifest.git ; repo sync ; make"


Except that you can't download the source for Honeycomb. That's kind of the point of the discussion.




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