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> IPv6 is overly complex

I'm being a bit pedantic about this since you're right that in practice, setting up stuff for IPv6 is in-fact complex since support for it is all over the place.

But I want to stress that IPv6 as a protocol is much simpler, more intuitive and much more versatile than IPv4. I'd even go so far as to say that it's actually fantastically suited for local networks, especially so in complicated setups with multiple subnets (in an alternate reality where everything supports it).

It's really, truly, a genuine shame that it never gained the momentum it could have.



The basics of the client side are simple.

But the routing is not simple.

I'm pretty well versed in networking generally - even IPv6, but a quick glance over something like: http://ipv6now.com.au/primers/IPv6RoutingSecurity.php

Makes it obvious why it still hasn't gotten anywhere, _no one_ wants to dig through all that unless they really really have to.

Security depends on securing the routing and address allocation. So it is hardly surprising very few were/are willing to step up a declare IPv6 installations safe for service.

Combine that with most users being happy and comfortable with 1 IP address and there was no mass market appeal for IPv6 hardware or software.

I'd go so far as saying the vast majority of people do not even realise their machines can be accessed from the outside world when they only have one public address behind their "firewalled super safe ISP router", and would be terrified to find out they can.


> http://ipv6now.com.au/primers/IPv6RoutingSecurity.php

Everything listed there either also applies/transfers to IPv4 or is not applicable at all to the situation you're evaluating.

> Makes it obvious why it still hasn't gotten anywhere

Uh....

https://www.google.com/search?q=google+ipv6+traffic+percenta...

44.44%

https://www.google.com/search?q=google+global+ipv6+traffic+p...

34.15%

[EDIT: sibling post by minimaul has the better link:] https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=ipv6...


> Combine that with most users being happy and comfortable with 1 IP address and there was no mass market appeal for IPv6 hardware or software.

The mass market appeal for IPv6 is the fact that we do not have enough IPv4 to actually give one internet connection a unique IP. CGNAT is getting ever more present in the marketplace as a result of this.

Major providers are rolling out IPv6. eg in the USA, several major cable/fibre providers provide v6, several mobile networks provide IPv6 using things like 464xlat. It's the same in the UK - BT for example provide IPv6 on consumer internet connections, EE (a major phone carrier) provide v6 and use 464xlat to provide v4 connectivity to handsets.

India and Germany are further ahead still, generally. Google's IPv6 stats are a good indicator of just how much v6 is in use now: https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=ipv6...


Usually, inbound IPv6 are firewalled by the ISP router just fine. As far as I know, there is UPnP with IPv6 though there seems to be some work into that direction. Also, current CGNAT setups tend to close connections before they should according to RFCs: https://anderstrier.dk/2021/01/11/my-isp-is-killing-my-idle-...

All the IPv6 routing security has to be done with IPv4 as well. ARP -> NDP, prevent source address spoofing, DHCP guard/ RA guard are basically two sides of the same coin. Serious networking hardware supports this for years or there are firmware updates supporting it. For about the last 5 years, supporting IPv6 became much easier, almost as easy as supporting IPv4 for most of the real world use cases. Anyway, the reality is, we don't really have much choice other than to migrate to IPv6 sooner or later.


Pretty often, IPv6 is NOT firewalls (or the firewall is opt-in which in practice amounts to the same thing).


Perhaps. Do you have concrete examples? As with everything: "Trust, but verify." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust,_but_verify



Well, the governments are starting to get the stick out : you don't have IPv6 support? No 5G authorisation for you!




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