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Life lessons learned in travelling the world for 8 years straight (fluentin3months.com)
340 points by fezzl on July 19, 2011 | hide | past | favorite | 115 comments


  More money will NEVER solve your problems
That just isn't true - the problem is that people realised that being rich isn't the same as being happy, and it was a good point. But then people took it too far, and it stops making sense.

Sure, for some people, having more money wouldn't improve things, but for many people, it definitely could. And I'm not just talking about people who are starving or homeless. You don't need a car to be happy, but if it means you waste far less time every week driving wherever you need to get to, it certainly has the potential to make you happier.

Can a really happy life be built entirely on having money? No (well, maybe for some people, I don't know), but that doesn't mean money can't or doesn't help to improve people's lives.


In the end it's all relative to your expectations. For example let's take 2 different people; "A" and "B".

"A" has rich parents (few hundred million). "A" has rich friends. "A" enjoys expensive past-times. "A" currently lives off around $1,000,000 per year (mortgage, food, entertainment, etc.). Most of "A"'s associates have a similar lifestyle. If "A" loses all of his money and is forced to take a job at $150,000 a year then he'll be absolutely miserable. He'll feel poor because all his friends and associates have so much more, and because he's become accustomed to a way of life he can no longer afford.

Now person "B" has a blue collar job, no savings, and makes $50,000 per year. "B"'s parents are not rich, but were always able to put food on the table. "B"'s friends and associates all live fairly similar lifestyles. If "B" is suddenly handed a magical supervisor role that pays $150,000 a year he'll feel absolutely rich. He'll have more money than any of his current associates. He has more money than he even knows what to do with.

Both "A" and "B" now make the same amount of money, but "B" is happier than "A" and it has everything to do with expectations, and since they have the same amount of money, then money must not be a direct factor.

You can keep taking this further until you hit a point where there's not enough money to cover bare necessities. This means that every single $ you make above the bare minimum to live a healthy life is unnecessary if you manage your expectations. For many of us it's easier to make more money than manage our expectations though. If you're barely scraping by on a $100,000 salary, maybe it's time to step back and examine your expectations and priorities.


+1, I think all of this is true and wise, but I will offer a contrasting perspective. I think it is good to have high expectations, not so much financially but in general.

I was working a stable, dull job, had a quiet social life, and was reasonably happy and content. But I decided that I could be living much more. I quit my job, moved cross country, started and finished a Ph.D. program, got an academic job, and also got much more adventurous in my social life. Across the board, my life was characterized by a lot more hardship, failure, and painful exposure to things which I wanted but were out of reach.

My life has been much, much better as a result. I am actually making much less money than I would be if I had kept on at my old job, but I raised my expectations relative to the life I was living, and this made all the difference.


It's in our nature that achievement makes us happy. I think it has something to do with Dopamine being released into our brains.

What I've found to be the secret for myself is that I only appreciate something as much as the effort it took to get it. It doesn't really matter what it is I'm trying to get, how much I enjoy the result seems to depend entirely on how much effort it took to achieve. If I work my ass off for $100, then it might feel like the best $100 I ever made. If someone hands me $1,000,000, I won't turn it down, but I won't care about it nearly as much as that hard-earned $100.

So setting realistic but challenging goals keeps us happy. If the bar's too low we don't appreciate the gains. Too high and we can lose our motivation.

Money can be part of those goals but it doesn't have to be.

It really starts to blow your mind when you start applying this principle to everything in life (I'm not running a cult or anything, ymmv).


Just out of interest ...

My life has been much, much better as a result.

How do you know this? You didn't live the other life, so you seem just to be speculating about how the other life may have turned out. You know know that the life you chose really is better.

Or do you?


"How do you know this?"

This question is, in my experience, the crux of many people's depression.

I realize that may seem to be hyperbole but consider that it is a question that cannot be reasonably answered. Even when it seems like it can, for example a friend of mine was stressing over the fact that they did not take a job offered to them by a startup, the startup was acquired and the person who did take the job did quite well. They felt like they had been 'stupid' to not taking the job, but everyone knows a company is the sum of its people. With the different mix the outcome could have been different.

I sometimes joke about knowing that I never invent time travel, because if I had I would have gone back to the summer of 2000 and told myself to cash out of equities. My wife said, but what if doing that prevents you from having the set of experiences that lead to you inventing time travel? Or maybe future-you sees the value of the path you took vs 'other' road you did not take.

Fundamentally you have to decide, move on, and accept. As a parent it is especially hard to do since you not only don't have any sort of manual on what the right thing to do is, everyone's child is different and so the 'right' thing is really impossible to know apriori.

So perhaps its not so much knowing that your life has been better because of your previous decisions, its more about understanding that the quality of your life, its 'betterness' if you will, is a combination of variables and that you've always decided to be true to your principals. So having solid principals for making those decisions you can be satisfied with your part in how your life has turned out.


I am comparing my life now to my life eight years ago, and also to some extent the life of my friends who are still living in the same town and working at the same company.

As far as how my other life may have "turned out"... I guess I'm not really sure what that means. I think the one comparison I can really make is if I had not made a lot of changes. Of course it is possible that I could have changed my life in some totally different direction, maybe without leaving town, and life would have been even better than my life now. That, of course, I can't guess.

But I feel conviction in my bones that I did right.


If you hadn't made any changes your life would have been exactly the same. And if you had made changes at a later point hen it would have been similar to ones your making now.

I think people underestimate how much work/effort/time it takes to change ones perspective.


You make a good point and it comes down to the parallel between the people who have money and the people who don't. For those who already have money, they view it as a standard, something they're used to and believe that their happiness comes from something else. For those who don't, not being able to pay a bill, having a good car to get back and forth to work, or being able to treat your kids to a movie and ice cream can significantly impact your happiness. Everyone says that money has nothing to do with it, but you're right, it does. Perhaps from a cosmic "we are floating in space" point of view, but in a human, "we run on money" view, there's significant happiness found in having money.

That being said, I think the concept of money and having or not having it is a great topic for debate. It's one of those things that most would love to detest, but in reality, they realize they only way they're going to be able to detest it (short of being homeless) is to make money. It sucks, it's dehumanizing, and it shouldn't be that way, but it is.


Maybe so, but it really is demonstrably true that there's a huge law of diminishing returns there. Once you earn a reasonable amount of money (the figure I saw for the US was around 50k, probably depreciated by now and obviously location-dependent) there is absolutely no correlation between making more money and happiness. The main take-away is that it probably requires a lot less than you think.

For this and many other interesting musings on the nature of happiness I strongly recommend "Stumbling on Happiness" by Daniel Gilbert. It's fascinating.


There's a big difference between "once you have a home and food" and "once you have 50k/yr", though.


Absolutely. A lot of people don't plan to stop at 50k/yr either, though - the OP's main point is that from a happiness optimisation POV after that point (or maybe earlier) their energy would be better spent elsewhere. And your expensive shoes example person is probably making more than 50k.


I believe what he means by this is part "more money will not solve ALL your problems" (ie: it's not a panacaea) and part "if you have food and shelter, everything else is a form of luxury". If you require a car to provide food and shelter, then I don't think that what he's said is invalid.


Sure a lot of things in life are luxuries, but that doesn't mean they are bad, and often can still solve problems.

"My feet hurt all day" might get solved by buying a fairly expensive pair of shoes, for example.

Will winning the lottery give you the perfect life? Doubtful. Can money solve many problems and improve your life in other ways? Very often.


As an interesting corollary, it's actually a longitudinally studied and extensively documented fact that winning the lottery does not provide long-term happiness.

More often than not, it actually causes more problems than it solves. I forget the statistic off the top of my head, but some astounding percentage of lottery winners -- let's say 75% -- end up worse off within 5 years of winning than they were before they won. (Granted, a lot of that has to do with the fact that the type of person most likely to be playing the lottery is also the type of person who has no real concept of the value of how to manage a $XXX million fortune, let alone a $XXX million fortune acquired literally overnight).


    Granted, a lot of that has to do with the fact that 
    the type of person most likely to be playing the 
    lottery is also the type of person who has no real
    concept of the value of how to manage a $XXX million
    fortune, let alone a $XXX million fortune acquired 
    literally overnight
That's it - I (anecdotaly) know several people who won the "internet start up lottery" (gotten very, very wealthy due to their start-ups doing well) and all of them are doing alright years after "winning the lottery".


I'm the author and I agree with Vacri's interpretation.


In other words, money is a necessary but not sufficient condition to be happy.


You can't spend 8 years traveling the world without quite a bit of money. The author should look at his own life before telling others that they don't need money; it sounds like luxury to me.


Simply not true.

When I first started traveling for long durations, I quickly realized that my biggest expense was keeping my life in the USA alive. Once I ditched the apartment/car payment, I found that I could live substantially cheaper on the road than I could back home.

As an example, living and climbing on the beach in Thailand, I could pay for my monthly rent/food/beer expenses with a single day of billable work. I had a laptop along for exactly that purpose, and as a result I ended up padding out the savings quite a bit by living in a tin shack on the beach.

You think travel is expensive because vacations are expensive and that's your only experience with travelling. A week in Hawaii costs about $10k for your family all in, so naturally it must cost me ~$500k a year on the road, right? I'll leave it to you to do the math on what you actually end up spending when you're paying local rates for accommodation and travel in 3rd world countries, but the answer you're working toward is $500-$1000/month.


I do see your point, and agree to a certain extent. Having spent some time in south-east asia, I have experienced first hand how cheap life can be compared to what I'm used to (a factor of 10, for a comparable lifestyle). In fact at one point I would consider that I pretty much ran out of money but still managed to get by.

However, I still see this type of travelling as a luxury. I would not fly off to another country for 6 months or longer, without a significant amount of savings.

Not everyone can necessarily do a bit of freelance work when they are abroad. As a former freelancer who who's spent several years now working full-time in an office, I have lost a lot of my freelance network of clients and contacts. Furthermore, if we're looking outside of the Hacker News community, not everyone has a skill that can be as easily marketable from a distance.

Trying to establish a freelance network back in your native country, once you're abroad could be an option for me, although not one I would rely on for my survival. I would also not rely on acquiring work visas, either. Especially if I couldn't prove to the relevant authorities that I had enough existing savings to not be a burden.

So unless you're a person in a particular situation in life, with a specific skill set, you will still be spending a reasonable amount of money during your months or years abroad. Add to that flights, insurance (maybe you're not too keen on cheap surgery in a third world country), vaccinations, the loss of maybe a few years contributions to your retirement savings, the cost of reintegrating yourself into your country when you return. Things get expensive. Although I previously did not think so, I would now definitely consider long-term travelling (with the intent of returning) a luxury.

Edit: That's not to say it's not a good idea. Or that it's impossible. As far as luxuries go, it's a very good one to go for.


You're arguing against an Existence Disproof here. Right this minute, there are tens of thousands of people travelling the world slowly from a backpack, picking up casual work as needed to get them to the next place. No special skills needed. Most of them you'd consider unskilled, which is just fine for waiting tables or running the front desk at a hostel.

It's less common to see Americans doing this, but you'll be hard pressed to find a Brit or Aussie who didn't take a Gap Year at some point.


As a brit who has had a gap year, and worked for it. I don't deny the existence of gap years, or people working on the road, by all means. But taking my past travels, for example, I now realise that I was fortunate to be at a particular point in my life (still living at home) and had parents which were not rich, but well enough off to be a viable backup should a problem arise. I also worked hard for it.

Gap years aside, I'm referring to sustainability when trying to do the work you want to, travelling and living frugally. Perhaps the author of the blog post was waiting tables for 8 years, in which case I apologise. But I'm assuming that, like me, they're a person who might have a bit of savings, and has a skill set in an industry that is location-independent. As such, doing work we are qualified in, on the road, is an option that is available to us. However, I acknowledge that doing so is a luxury. I do not believe I would be able to do so if I was penniless and didn't have a fair amount of work experience.

I didn't mean to be a killjoy. Doing what the author of the blog post did is something that I aspire to do. And as someone working hard towards that goal (work fulfillment + location and financial independence + guaranteed retirement income), I feel that presenting the bigger picture is important.


"...you'll be hard pressed to find a Brit... who didn't take a Gap Year at some point."

Not true. Sure, it's common enough for young people to take a gap year before or after university, but not everyone does - I certainly didn't. Among those who don't go to university, taking a gap year would be the exception rather than the rule.


As a Brit... might I suggest that the more accurate answer is that you'd be hard pressed to find an ex-pat in your current country of residence who didn't do that at some point?


You don't need to limit yourself to freelancing work either. I've done odd jobs that got me enough money for another week of travel with a few days works. One was laying concrete in a 3rd world country after drinking with a local farmer. It is very easy to get by if you have a varied skillset. Learn how to weld and you will never go hungry anywhere (until they invent cheap, intelligent welding robots).

I've been working abroad for over a year now. Make it happen and go where you want. Kids are easy to travel with in most countries too.


Sure you can. Travel needs not be expensive. If you don't stay in expensive hotels and eat out all the time, don't go drinking/partying every night its not difficult to travel on very little money. Move to a new country with a work permit, get a short term job, maybe working in your hostel, or at a bar, or even as general labour and save up enough to make your next hop.


I think you'll find it's not that easy to move to a new country with a work permit, unless you have a lot of money in your bank account (which is one of the first checks the embassies do), or you're of the wrong nationality (try entering europe being african). Yeah, try telling a starving child labourer in Honduras or South Africa that money will not solve any of their problems. Maybe you can travel hitch-hiking and getting to stay in people's places… I've done that in some parts of europe, but there's nothing like a pillow of cash to help you through the day.


If you're young and from the right countries it's very simple. It's called a working holiday visa. Usually gives you around a year to work and live in the destination country.


I am being downvoted above but isn't travel expensive? It has to be simply because of the fuel costs involved.

In my eyes, 8 years of constant travel would be expensive. Compare that to 8 years of working on the same spot.


Travel can be very expensive. It can also be very cheap. It might be nicer to fly from point A to B but odds are there is a cheaper bus ticket available. A 4 star hotel is very nice to stay at but a 0 star hostel will often cost you less than $15 a day. Working in a bar will easily cover that, your food(buying cheap from local sources and cooking for yourself), and allow you to save for your next bus/boat ticket or where absolutely needed a short haul flight.


You see, that's my point, as soon as you have to cut the costs of other parts of your life you've clearly started doing something which requires large amount of money...


What costs are you cutting? No, vacationing in 5-star hotels for 8 years would not be cheap but that's not a necessity for travelling. You probably don't rent a 5-star apartment at home.


People are talking about buying less stuff, and going out for drinks and nice food less often.

These are costs that would be decreased.

My thought was that: you have to make concessions beyond what you would normally have in your life and that, to me, is proof that you are undertaking in a luxury which you can not easily afford.

Which brings me to my original point: when it's clear that the ability to travel requires money can somebody then genuinely advise others that more money doesn't solve a problem?


You're also often lowering your level of income by getting rid of steady employment which is where the cutting down on things comes from.


From what I've heard, travel costs are shockingly cheaper once you get out of the US.


The author addresses that exact point in his article. Take a look -- apparently he has no money.


Agree - as long as money buys you time, it's valuable, because time is the only truly limited resource we have. From a certain income level and up, though, there is very little gain in happiness, so i find the western world's fascination with very rich people absurd.


Most of these life lessons have nothing to do with travelling. Most people I know (especially in their late 20's) would come up with a similar list even if they've barely travelled.

I think this is just merely the blog poster's world view articulated into 29 points, and incidentally he has travelled the world instead of living in one place.


However it is amazing what an impact does living at a place away from were one grew up in have in the perception of the world.

I had already traveled a lot ( as a tourist ) before I left Greece to come and live in Japan, when I started to make a life here, I practically had to rediscover myself. It is not so much the big things, it's the small ones : habits that I took for granted, jokes that do not sound funny, if you can ask someone's phone number... Like a very thin safety net of supporting culture I never new was there just disappeared underneath me.

I also had a fresh view of Greece , and my life before

I think traveling gives you a change of perspective difficult to grasp at home


Thanks for sharing. I just (a month ago) did a relocation and while I'm not as far away from my former home as you (we are talking about 3.000km here) I certainly notice the first free-fall encounters.

I'm glad to read that you recommend it. I hope one day I'll give out the same advice, from another perspective.


Where in Japan are you located? I'm in Tokushima.


Hi thanks for replying, I am in Kobe, close to Osaka. Do you ever come to Osaka, by any chance?


Hey Stayjin, I'm coming to Osaka next week actually on Friday. Let me know if you have time for a coffee! My email address is in my profile. Cheers,


I guess it is not a coincidence, but just in case that you don't know it already, patio11 is giving a talk at a presentation group we have here called "Design Matters", at the Osaka Shinsaibashi Apple Store. It will be great. Check out http://designmatters.jp/

This group was initiated by Garr Raynolds of http://www.presentationzen.com/ but Garr became very busy, so since last year, together with another guy we run the show.


Sorry to barge in but I'd love to go to this; the website just mentions something for April 5th though; can I assume that patio11's talk is on from 7pm at the Apple Store in Shinsaibashi this Friday?

I'd also be interested in grabbing a coffee some time with others from HN; my e-mail is in my profile, please drop me a line :)

Thanks!


No not THIS Friday, it is scheduled for, Jul 29th Fri at 7pm at the 2F of Shinsaibashi apple store.

I am very sorry, the site is not updated yet (because I didn't have time to get to it yet :( Sorry, things are getting a little crazy with day job recently... )


Could you send me an email (in my profile) / put your contact info in your profile so I can find you if I go there.


I see that there are some people living in Kansai here ! I'm living in Kobe too, let's catch up some time.


Travelling is different than living abroad though, right?


Depends how your travels looks like, you can travel living in luxury hotels, spend most of the time with people from your country either by the hotel swimming pool or guided tours or in the museums - or you can be less savy and go a bit "guerilla" with your travels: go a bit off from the typical tourists' paths, see the real local culture (not the one from museums) and real local people - this should be enough to "open up your mind" for different cultures (of course living abroad adds more of that but you can get some essence even if you stay somewhere for only a couple of days.


This is so true.

My current work as a system engineer implementing ERP systems for overseas affiliates, takes me often to work abroad (from Japan, that is) for a few weeks a time. Although I don't have time to do almost any sight-seeing at all, and although they will usually have me stay in more or less high grade hotels (that narrow one's vision, because they are the same, everywhere), it is working together with the local operators and managers, eating together, understanding their work ethic and habits, getting their feedback, pushing it together through the transition period, so when I go back I feel I understand a little bit more about the country from these interactions than from whatever I saw during my limited time off work.


Yes it is (at least for me it was).

It has to do with the change of perspective. When traveling you usually curry your original perspective with you so it is kind of difficult to see things from another angle while bound for back home.

I guess it depends on how you travel though (the OP sounds like a very serious traveler).


I do agree that majority of these lessons have also been mentioned by other blogs.

However, to know them and to learn them are two different things. Since human, especially me, has a tendency of falling back into old habits (such as hoarding possessions), posts such as this now-and-again to serve as reminders should always be welcome.

On an another note, I have a feeling that the term "life lesson" is being thrown about way too much. Can you say you have learned a life lesson without living through most of your life (ie. < ~50)?


> Most of these life lessons have nothing to do with travelling.

Very true. But I think they have everything to do with questioning your assumptions, breaking your routine, and experiencing something unfamiliar. One can do all of these things without leaving home. But showing up to a foreign country where you don't speak the language or know anybody seems like a particularly effective way to do all of this.


A lot of it is common sense, but I rarely meet people truly living that way. So, the take-away from the article is that it's really possible to have it all at once.


While the lessons aren't travel-related themselves, he probably has learned most of them while travelling. It would be my guess that if he had been sitting in an office and pushing for a career for those eight years then it's likely his world view just might be a bit more naive.


Absolutely. On top of that, not all 29 points are life lessons. Many of them are just general conclusions about the world.


There's also a difference between vacationing and living abroad. You don't need to spend a lot of time abroad to gain that knowledge and perspective, but you're not going to learn it in one- and two-week vacations entirely surrounded by middle-class comfort.

As for OP, I think he learned a lot more than what he articulated. He's obviously intelligent, thoughtful, and experienced. But the 29 points he gave are all observations that, while valuable, are hardly original. This isn't surprising; usually the things people say they learned aren't what they actually learned because the latter are too subtle and difficult to articulate.


It also makes it seem like there's not that much to learn by spending large amounts of time travelling. That's because people on average are similar, so it's equally probable you will meet the people who will make a difference in your life, travelling or no-travelling. Maybe in the end you will be wiser using the internet, which can actually help you find people with common aspirations/interests etc.


The advantage of traveling is that it forces you out of your comfort zone. You'll meet types of people that you otherwise wouldn't ever bump into.


I'm pretty sure this is 29 lessons learned from Fight Club. Though I didn't get to the soap recipe.


As I've been saying to others regarding startup advice and lessons, it's much more helpful and interesting to read stories. You may think you are extracting out wisdom from your experiences, but really, more often than not, these "life lessons" don't mean much without context. I certainly can't take them for a rule and apply them to my life. It may turn out to be the wrong advice for me and even if it doesn't, I'll always have the nagging doubt that I took the wrong decision based on someone else's experiences.

It would be nearly impossible to read these "N lessons" posts if they were not in the form of lists, which points to the fact that they don't flow very well. They are written in bite-sized chunks for information-hungry internet nerds like us.

Writers, please tell stories. We don't need more advice.


This is the only list post I've ever written on my blog, since I was in a reflective mood about a long list of specific things and felt this got my point across clearest. You'll find a lot of stories that expand on and discuss particular parts in greater detail if you follow the links ;)

It's been an amazing experience seeing this go viral (see the counts on the left of the post), but I'll be sticking to my non-list posts for the majority of what I write :)

Also, this isn't advice but what I've learned. I didn't want it to come across as preachy, but actually something I would like to have told myself at age 21 and am thinking aloud.

I hope you enjoy other stories shared on the blog! Here's people's favourite one I've written this year: http://www.fluentin3months.com/speed-dating


A life lesson with context wouldn't be a life lesson. The context is life, if the context is more specific and not fully applicable to life then it is no longer a life lesson.


A "life lesson" may still have a non-universal set of (common) situations to which it applies.


You don't agree that the more specific a situation is, the less applicable to 'life' it is?


I disagree with the conflation of "applies to life in general" with "applies to every situation you could be in." I would say it is, for example, a mistake to interpret lesson #2 as "never choose delayed gratification," but it is very important not to overvalue it.


> 2. Deferring your happiness to the future is a terrible idea

Every time I see this, I ask myself, how is this advice reconciled with the famous Marshmallow experiment? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_marshmallow_experiment

There surely must come a point where enough deferred future marshmallow gratification makes deferred gratification a recommended life strategy.

If I were always to choose not to delay my happiness, I'd eat unhealthy foods, not force myself to do exercise and never work hard to achieve anything.

As I heard a comic say, "I decided to live every day as if it were my last. Now I have really bad credit."


They're different things. Marshmellow isn't about deferring satisfaction, but about using metacognitive skills to reach an outcome you _know_ beforehand is favorable (i.e. two marshmellows instead of one). If you just find a marshmellow on a plate somewhere, by all means, the best strategy is to eat it.


And then let me know where you were when you found it. I'm all about finding random marshmallows while I'm just ambling around.


"Life lessons" aren't formulas and aren't objective, so they don't need to be reconciled. Knowing when and how to apply them takes maturity and life experience. If that wasn't the case, then anyone could read a list of them and be equally enlightened and successful. A counter-example doesn't invalidate advice, or else there would be no legitimate advice.


Oh, easy: 1) Wait for the marshmallow (it may be 15 minutes) 2) While you are waiting, distract yourself. 3) Presto: you are now happy and waiting for the marshmallow.

You can read the article on the new yorker now (google newyorker marshmallow, article is called "the secret of self-control") but the key concept is "strategic allocation of attention".

I'm not sure what his point is...in fact the whole article is a little bit haphazard. The concept is usually stated as "deferring pleasure", which is completely different from deferring happiness.


no life changing advice survives any form of analysis.


I've spent almost 10 years not having a stable place/work relationships. I also travelled a lot and came to almost same conclusions. But.

Looking back at it now I think that's everything should be limited. Including TV, including reading books alone and including travelling around the world. But.

The only thing that shouldn't be limited - is the pursue of your own unique excellence.

ADD:

So, if you want to be an excellent traveller - travel, if you want to be an excellent writer - write even not seeing others, if you want to be anything you like - do want you like. And try to be excellent.

That's the only life advice I have!

ADD 2: Naturally, if you don't want to be excellent, try to be excellent to be non-excellent !!!


but what if i ENJOY watching tv? or being on the internet for hours? why is outdoors better by definition?

this fits nicely into the "what white people like" stereotype. go outside! why? maybe i want to read a book and be left alone. maybe i don't like dancing and singing.

how about: do whatever you like, but please, don't preach. we are different.

/white, like travel and outdoors, but love to consume art


If after spending many hours watching TV you feel your life has been enhanced in some way, then by all means keep it up. In my opinion people don't feel this way (I certainly never did and grew up glued to my TV) and would have spent their time better in other activities rather than following hours of reality TV shows etc.

Doing "whatever you like" doesn't necessarily enrich your life. It's just immediate pleasure. Sometimes doing whatever is BEST for you (which you should of course decide) is way more important. If people really sat down and thought about it, a lot of them would realise that, as much as they like it, TV is NOT best for them.


I feel my life is infinitely enriched by watching TV and movies. (In UK, we have extremely high quality programming).

You wouldn't say "all books are bad" would you... Sadly people seem to take the worst TV (reality TV) and assume it's all like that.

Watch some good movies, comedies or documentaries. Heck watch "How it's made" for a few days.


I have lived in the UK and tv there is just as bad as anywhere else (I particularly remember gardening shows ad nauseum). If you think your life is infinitely enriched by tv, wait till you get out there (and garden for example).


As I said in another comment, these are just things that I have personally learned in the last 8 years. Disagree with them if you will. I do agree that TV quality is better in the UK (we get most of it in Ireland) compared to the states, but there is still plenty of rubbish that people waste their time with. If you just watch documentaries or educational programming, then that enriches your life and there would be nothing negative for me to say about it.


I think there's a difference between watching the tele without regard to content and using it to watch specific content.

The "read more" crowd gets the reverse of this - much of what is in print is not worth the time it takes to consume it.

In general, value your time and use it accordingly. You're not getting it back if you decide it was wasted later.


why do i need to "enrich my life"? can't i be happy with how it is? who are you to tell other what's BEST for them?

how about you get a little older? how about staying in a place for a little longer, say 10 years and see how time makes a difference? your zero impact runaway life is a narrow experience - ever thought about that?

maybe you'll realize that all your travels, all your experiences don't make your life a jota more "valuable" or less valuable than the ones of any other being, whatever life they live.

your open mind - isn't.


First off, you're really defensive about some person's blog post. I mean, seriously. He's not working on your spleen.

Secondly, it's "lessons learned", not commandments. Just stuff he picked up whilst traveling, not universally-accepted, committee-approved advice for everyone on planet earth and those who aren't born yet.

Finally, what on earth does age have to do with conveying general observations? What would staying 10 years in Portofino tell me that I couldn't get from open exploration and friendly/social interaction in a few weeks? That they actually ship their sardines live from China and throw them into the Ligurian? Good to know, but I'm a traveler. Why do I need to know that?

"your open mind - isn't."

I don't think he conferred himself any type of honor or status about his travels that assumes he is open-minded, except to say "I had an open mind while traveling and learned some stuff. Hope you can appreciate it." He isn't bigoted against people who do or don't do anything from what I could read in that article. When he says "don't defer your happiness" he means just that: Appreciate what you've got while you're planning on attaining more if that's the goal."


i'm replying to his reply...did you read it?


Sigh. Someone needs to write:

"41 Life Lessons Learned by Marrying, Moving to Suburbia, and Raising a Family".

That's what I did and I'm a happy guy.


    Someone needs to write
Why not you?


A few points I got from this:

- Possessions do own you. I have made an effort in the past year to minimize my stuff. One of my long term goals is to be able to shrink the majority of my life into a travel-able size. It allows me to cherish the essentials and not bloat the rest of my life.

- Money does allow for happiness, just to a certain extent. Money opens up many opportunities and comforts. It also adds security. If my car gets totalled tomorrow, I know that I have enough money saved up to be able to handle it, rather than suddenly be put in a dire situation that could jeopardize my job.

- Major goals are important, but not everything. People work towards things, its natural of humanity. Everyone sets goals and works towards them (or sometimes waits for them) and it is a strong driving force in our lives. But sacrificing your happiness now for the sake of those goals is counterproductive. You need to enjoy the time used to achieve that goal. You shouldn't look back on the year(s) taken to get to the point and see a lot of unhappiness and pain, enjoy some of the time instead.

- In regards to the internet/tv posts, I would say that the biggest thing anyone can do is read. The Internet provides an incredibly accessible portal of information and using it to learn new things (and an incredibly breadth of things) is a tool everyone should use and abuse.

... Just my random thoughts after reading the post.


possessions don't own you. attachment owns you. the difference is subtle.


As someone who is currently taking a gap year to travel and work on my startup, a lot of this rings true. Especially the part about speaking other languages rather than English. There are interesting conversations that I just can't participate in because I don't understand what people are saying. However, there are several hacks for this that I've found.

- Don't stay at hotels, use airbnb. The hosts are almost always locals that speak decent English and want to get to know you, so that's enriched my experience tremendously. Disclaimer: I do NOT work for airbnb, but after seeing how it has enriched my travels it's definitely at the top of my list if I ever wanted to apply for a job again.

- Go out of your way to meet other travelers. Usually, travelers like to keep to themselves. But there are districts in any city that are especially frequented by foreigners. Why restrict yourself to locals? Foreigners from a different country who are traveling are just as interesting for cultural exchange as the locals. They usually speak English fairly well and it's not uncommon to be engaged in an English conversation with a German, a Russian, a Chinese, and a French person at a bar. It's quite fascinating.

While it is definitely less expensive to travel than one would think, it still does cost quite a bit if you want to travel to major cities and have a living standard which is at least close to western-standard. Staying with friends and using airbnb instead of hostel/hotel is the best way to keep costs down. After 3 months of traveling (Australia, South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and now Spain) I've spent an average of $4300/mo. I'm traveling with my wife so the per person cost is actually less. Could I get by with less by teaching English and staying in one place longer, etc? Yes, but as with everything, there is a tradeoff between time and money.


Nice article. I have myself lived in Latin America and China for about 12 years now, however I prefer to stay at the same place for some years, to make it become "normal" life.

And while I agree with many of the articles points, I completely disagree with #16. The "easy going" may look charming and smart on the surface, but when reality suddenly shows up (illness, accident, any sort of emergency, etc) then its suddenly not so charming anymore.

I believe a big reason for the "easy going" attitude lays in the available Social Capital in a given society. In societies with low Social Capital, its often no use to be "less easy going" and work hard, since careers are not build by knowledge or good work, but by "Guanxi" and Amigos (because Social Capital is low these relationships become more important than actual professional knowledge). I am pretty sure that, having a real choice, most people would opt for the "less easy going" way, where products and services, houses and medical care are available and reliable.


These are pretty simple, not so preachy, and generally expected observations from someone working in a location independent profession while travelling the world and picking up new languages. This is also advice aimed almost directly at people in similar positions - those with higher education and almost zero financial or emotional attachment (ex. children, sick family memebers) to their original home. What I'm more interested in though is when the author realizes that being in different places every three months, no matter how much you "hack your experience" there only allows you access to a certain level of experiential depth. Love, trust, deep friendships, community - you just cant cultivate these things every three months while planning your next destination and as much friendliness, and kindness people in these places show you, its not the same as if you are someone planning to be a part of that place permanently.


I disagree that the desire to own stuff all boils down to wanting recognition and validation from others. In my experience there are a range of reasons that people want to own things, and validation is just one of the more base reasons.


IMHO, different world travellers come up with different life lessons. It all depends on the person's own prejudices. Lessons are not in the world, they're within you. World and societies are just tools to discover our own selves.


I can't really think of any written example of any traveler who came up with different conclusions about the world.


Conclusions about the world can be same. Like, everyone wants the same in life is a popular conclusion seen in several travel blogs. But we're talking about life lessons here, which I think, are not absolutes but drawn differently by different people.


Have an up-vote for being from Cavan!

Languages should be always acquired wherever possible. On my travels I've picked up Irish, French, Chinese and attempting to learn Nepalese to placate the in-laws for my future wedding speech.


Wa hey! Fellow Cyavan-man? I'll be back for the Fleadh in a month :)


The aul fellah is from Cavan, being a mongrel with Kerry blood in me I had the misfortune of living in the Faithful county for many a year.

Out in Sydney now.


I don't like the way this article, and many others like it, disregard peoples ability to be malicious. They portray all humans as good-natured, kind and helpful, and while this is true for the overwhelming majority, the small percentage to who this does not apply do exist.

I personally would love to read some good advice on how to deal with people who actively try to harm you, as most advice available focusses on how to make friends and acquaintances.


Amazing blog, thanks for posting it. Been living in Paris for two weeks now and not really even tried to speak French, my aim by the end of my internship was to become conversationally fluent. Definitely starting this soon: http://www.fluentin3months.com/the-smartest-decision-you-wil...


Basically the biggest trouble I have had learning a spoken language is in getting over the awkwardness of never being able to understand the other person or come up with a quick reply. You probably need to get used to sounding like an idiot all the time and constantly misunderstanding what people are trying to say. Then, get used to people switching to English even though that's really not helping your situation. If you have no trouble with that, you're much better off than I am.

Another useful skill that I alluded to is the ability to quickly and accurately simplify your thoughts into words that you know in the language in question. You will learn that a lot of the time in English you are just adding layers and layers of nuance to what you are saying rather than more clearly saying what you are actually thinking.


Another post that you may find more relevant to Paris is my experience in finally learning how to get along with Parisians: http://www.fluentin3months.com/closed-minded/ This is important to keep in mind as it's the only place in the world that my speak-the-language-from-day-one approach needed some tweaking ;) Enjoy the city - my favourite activity there is to stand over the bridge to the Cité and wave at a boat passing underneath and have 200 Japanese tourists wave back. Fun times!


The concept of closed-mindedness is also heavily cultural; it doesn't always translate or map to local values.


As I said in the post, closed-mindedness is something that people have to realise lies within themselves. This post wasn't calling Parisians closed minded.


I assumed you were calling yourself closed-minded.

But my point was that the whole open-minded versus closed-minded conversation hinges upon cultural values which are by no means universal. There are many cases where the reverse is seen as important (e.g. resisting outside influences) or where the entire topic is not seen as meaningful or important.


Thanks for explaining!


Well, it is good to have rich parents, no one argues. You can discover basics of the life in 8 years rather than in one year of visiting a public library. ^_^

Disclaimer: I have seen so many Enlightened Tourists after two weeks in Lhasa or a Hindu/Yogi Gurus after one months in Varanasi and especially Teachers Of Humanity with an obvious Narcissistic Personality Disorder.


Excellent read. As someone who has (hopefully) just taken up the travelling+programming lifestyle myself I was really inspired by the website. There's a lot of interesting articles on there.


I met a guy once who, at the time, had benen travelling for 7 years. His main advice was: Don't get married. You don't want to know how much people cheat on their sopouses.


A little John Lennon here, a little Miguel de Cervantes there.


Point #1 is why we shouldn't be at war, why people in power shouldn't be always trying to control the populace, and why there shouldn't be so much poverty


I have a strong desire to do something like this. I've been saving for the day that I can quit my job, and work on a start-up. At the same time I also want to move to somewhere like Costa Rica with exciting rain forests, and a lower cost of living. Unfortunately I feel tied down, I'm more than willing to sell most of my stuff, I basically stopped buying "things" a few years ago. However I could never move away from my girlfriend, and she could never move away from her life here in Boston.



And I'll even cut to the chase: http://www.vagabonding.net/excerpt/


It's easy to be single with this lifestyle, as a professional who can work remotely anywhere. You can't have pets, as well.




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