are you saying that because people are selling pictures/videos of them selves doing sexy things, we should expect and accept that people are violent to them?
I mean, chat shows are pretty much the same thing, an illusion of a social relationship, but we don't accept stalkers on those platforms?
>we should expect and accept that people are violent to them?
Accept no, expect absolutely. Which is why boundaries and control mechanisms are needed, the removal of which is the entire premise of OnlyFans.
>I mean, chat shows are pretty much the same thing, an illusion of a social relationship, but we don't accept stalkers on those platforms?
Are you referring to Twitch ? That's not the same thing, at all. Sex isn't a minor variable. It re-frames the entire problem in a context where people lose the ability to appropriately parse and manage their para-social relationships. Furthermore Twitch itself (other platforms aren't really worth mentioning) doesn't encourage entertainer-user relationship beyond the only tools it provides : the chat box and the stream. Everything else is external, and that includes OnlyFans !
> Sex isn't a minor variable. It re-frames the entire problem in a context where people lose the ability to appropriately parse and manage their para-social relationships
What is the reason people lose the ability to appropriately parse and manage themselves in the context of sex?
What is the reason people lose the ability to appropriately parse and manage themselves in the context of sex?
Because you've lost the context of what sex is and what it has been in society, and in humanity as a whole. Sex is inherently primal, bestial, even brutal in nature. We've been trained over hundreds of thousands of years to build ourselves up to it and in return we get rewarded with brain chemicals and the continuation of our species. You can't just expect to rewire millions of years of evolutionary drive and wrap it up in a cute discrete transaction. You're ludicrous for even trying. Every job has its occupational hazards. These the hazards of selling your crotch online. Either accept it, or move on. Stop trying to frame it as some sort of empowering path when in reality peoples' lives just get ruined.
> Sex is inherently primal, bestial, even brutal in nature.
for ducks, yes.
For primates, it varies.
> rewire millions of years of evolutionary drive and wrap it up in a cute discrete transaction
I don't think one can safely make that assertion. in Humans, sex is mostly cultural. Its not like we all return to the place of our birth to spawn, or spread our gametes in sync with the moon. We have huge amounts of control over how, when, where and what rules are applied to sex. It is common to have life partners, but in practice the average life span of a sexual relationship varies from hours to many years
I suspect that you are seeing it through the lens of second hand middle class Victorian dogma. (like I do.)
We (I say we, middle class class british) are taught that a good woman is one that is faithful and obedient. A good man however is heroic, and beats women off with a stick. Other cultures are not like that. Indeed Georgian England was not like that, especially in the upper and mercantile classes. (just look at the shit that happened in Vauxhall gardens.)
But to answer your implied point, that selling one's body has always been seen as the lowest of the low. I don't think thats the case. Even in america a top quality brothel was held in higher esteem than dockers, Gong farmers or indeed peasants.
I wasn't directly. Twitch is just another broadcast medium. The only thing that's different is that its normally private, so young teens/adults can view the stream without the parents being aware.
What is perplexing to me is that in our[1] society, public violence against women is almost never accepted. Men are shamed[2] and hung out to dry for doing it(if they are caught)
but we as a culture accept intimidating and violent behavior towards women on the internet. If I were to hurl abuse in the street at a woman in the same way that is done online, I'd be punched.
So I'm not sure why there is a divide between online/offline here. I have a few ideas, but nothing concrete I would sum up here.
[1]Anglo saxon, western
[2] I'm not going to go into the whole issue of women being "protected" from violence, its a large and complex subject full of holes.
are you saying that because people are selling pictures/videos of them selves doing sexy things, we should expect and accept that people are violent to them?
I mean, chat shows are pretty much the same thing, an illusion of a social relationship, but we don't accept stalkers on those platforms?
why does nakedness change that?