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All very amusing. But most amusing was that facebook employees' badges wouldn't work. Hilarious. Can't get in the office if facebook.com is not reachable. (or whatever the unreachable service was)


Far fetched, obviously, but.... Jurassic Park, Dennis Nedry-type situation? Shut down the master systems to hide the theft (or in this case, destruction) of vital info.

No key-card access means even non-need-to-know internal employees wouldn't see the deed, and plausible deniability is spawned for everyone else.


Considering they just had a whistle blower leak incriminating documents... I'd say this is plausible.

Edit: Also a great way to suppress the news of the whistleblower. Take the site down so the outage outranks news searches keyword "Facebook"


The second explanation seems plausible to me. The first one is a bit farfetched since they could've just waited two weeks in order to make it look less suspicious given that the leak would not be front of mind for everyone by then.


"I'm sorry Senator. We lost that data in the Oct 4 incident."


"The Senate will decide your fate, Mr. Zuckerberg."


Geez I certainly hope not, you think that corrupt bunch of bastards would ever hold a billionaire accountable for anything?


Ah, so no playing oculus either?


My friends said they couldn't play Oculus


I read on Facebook that Nicki Minaj's Cousin's Friend was using an Oculus during the Facebook outage, and he got trapped in CyberSpace, and when his balls became swollen in CyberSpace, they also became swollen in real life!


That's what you get when you try to get 100% in a Starfleet drill assessment simulation. A rigged one at that!


Oculus customers were only able to play offline games during this time. Which I find concerning. I don't mind that FB employee badges didn't work because what would they do at their desks anyway and all exit doors have bypasses anyway so they can, and were, open, just rank and file employees couldn't access some spaces. Some of those spaces are secure and "fail closed" by design. Yes, its inconvenient but unlocking all the doors to potential terrorists or workplace shooters if the internet connection gets snipped isn't what you want in an office.

What's scary is that my gaming machine can't be used because of some weird obsession with centralizing oculus through facebook. As a customer that's inexcusable but now imagine a developer who hosts her own servers for her game and her customers can't get to it. Facebook is only providing middle-man authentication, its not even hosting these games. If they were hosted by FB it would be fine, but they aren't and what we're suffering under is FB being the gatekeeper to the rest of the internet. That is a scary prospect.

I also question why we all think its acceptable to have these incredible BGP outages every 3-6 months. We built our digital world on the equivalent of ever changing spinning plates and manage it in the most cost-efficient way possible. Maybe the alternative would been worse, but its crazy to me as to what we consider normal and acceptable in capitalist culture.

I'm already seeing /r/oculus say its no different than Valve's scheduled maintenance windows, which is obviously false. Its incredible what rationalizations we'll accept instead of questioning the status quo of capitalist culture and our giant corporations that rule so much of our lives.


> I also question why we all think its acceptable to have these incredible BGP outages every 3-6 months.

This isn’t BGP’s fault, someone or something presumably made a network configuration change that took down their route advertisements to the world. There’s currently ~72K autonomous systems advertising ~900K IPv4 prefixes today on the Internet. There’s bound to be some sort of screw up once in a while.


There's been a few people so far whose Facebook accounts were banned that learnt this the hard way.


What's it like paying to rent a gaming headset from Facebook?


Curious about this as well could not find anything on initial searches but I honestly hope so. The one reason I have not grabbed the oculus is because the Facebook requirement.


When I hear Facebook leadership talking about the VR vision, I’m reminded of IBM in the early 2000s encouraging employees to claim their second life avatars and setup cyber customer briefing centers.


Exactly ... like I am going to strap on a headset and work with my co-workers memojis for 8 hours or even less. Laughable and VR has been around since the 90s with the same form factor .. it hasn't evolved as it will always be strap this bulky thing to your head & isolate yourself from the world. Maybe it will catch on for videogames but to co-work in a virtually reality world HA.

AR Glasses at least their form factor has changed since Google Glass and will continue to evolve some. Google Glasses to how Facebook Stories sunglasses look which look like sunglasses billions are use to wearing and use daily. Billions will never strap on a headset for hours to co-work. Billions will adopt AR Glasses as it takes a familiar form factor/daily life product and enhances it like the iPHone enhance our daily lives.


Eh, I could see myself doing development in that type of environment if the tools were get better. I've worked remote for the past 6 years, so it wouldn't quite be the same as in an office environment though.


It wouldn't be the first time it's happened, and you would expect their network and security folk to understand single points of failure.


you would learn not to trust a first message you read on hackernews about what's going on inside


A single point of failure implies a single point of control. A dungeonmaster. There can be only one.


DND driven development or backdoor? You decide!

But, seriously, it could use a separated network with federation like an AD domain.


That was Highlander tho.


You would think those in charge of security would know better with their mid-six figure salaries. But then again these days they stopped hiring based on merit but rather certain other “metrics” no wonder they were so incompetent...


Which metrics are they using to hire E6s and up? Because those are the only ones making 500k+


Can you elaborate on this? Curious about how they hire their 500k people.


The person you're replying to is insinuating that Facebook hires half-a-million dollar engineers based on diversity quotas instead of technical chops. No sense asking them to elaborate since they're obviously completely outside the company and have no worthwhile insight into their hiring practices.


"Diversity quota" is one interpretation, mine was that they meant FB hires were determined according to who you know and who you blow. (probably less of the latter post-#metoo)


was not them. was an intern.


The intern wasn't the single point of failure. They just triggered the failure. This should have been obvious at the design stage and pre-mitigated.

And if they don't mitigate it now, every hacker with access into their network now knows how to bring the whole show down in an instant.




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