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Remember this situation the next time you hear somebody say that nuclear plants could be built cheaper if not for too much safety regulation.


I don't think I've ever heard this argument.

I have, however, heard the opposite argument: nuclear power plants are now extremely safe because of safety regulations, so we should build more of them.


It's actually quite common, I've experienced it personally many times because I am interested in the topic. Their price is basically uneconomical, and the argument in the end always boils down that the danger aspect is overblown, thus making them safe to an unnecessary degree. Example, first sentence in the article:

> Should any discussion of nuclear power go on for long enough, it becomes inevitable that someone will rant that the only reason it has become unaffordable is a proliferation of safety regulations.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/11/why-are-nuclear-plan...


This wouldn’t have happened if the world stopped buying oil and gas from Russia and used more energy from nuclear power plants.


This would have needed to happen a long time ago to have the altnerative energy sources in production today. Which also begs another counterfactual scenario: what if we had spent even a slightly larger fraction of the taxpayer r&d subsidies on renewables rather than the extremely capital heavy nuclear research on both military and civilian sectors, with many decades long dead-ends (breeders, gas cooled, liquid cooled, fission, etc), we'd be decades further along with solar and wind.


r&d in nuclear pretty much died down over past couple decades, it all went into wind and solar. and i think it's a mistake. safe compact nuclear reactors have been developed even with reduced capital, imagine where we could've been if we continued developing.


To have more nuclear power now the plant constructions would have needed to take place starting 30ish years ago, to account for the 15 year lead time per unit and to space apart the large number of construction starts to get an appreciable number of them operational. To have better renewables in the counterfactual r&d scenario, the earlier we diverted the resources the better acceleration payoff it would have had, ideally in the 50s to 70s.


Right, if only the world would have thousands of nuclear plants more, the danger of one blowing up in a war would decrease substantially.


What kind of sick mind one needs to have, to push this anti nuclear bullshit when the real issue is a fucking fascist invasion of Russia into Ukraine? For fucks sake..


Ran out of arguments pretty quickly so taking cover behind your high horse. One of the most pathetic things one can do.


Talk to me about reducing energy from nuclear after you've done something to reduce energy from russian oil and gas. until then - go fuck yourself.


You need to have some kind of an authority to argue like this. E.g. did you do anything about it? But even then it takes a special kind of stupid to behave like this.


yes, i've donated to ukrainian army that is fighting to stop the fascist russian scourge and i'm helping to coordinate delivery of humanitarian aid so that people aren't dying because of fascist russian scourge. all of that hopefully helps ukraine last enough for russia to collapse and become a dead wasteland with no oil or gas exports.

what are you doing again?


I asked what are you doing to stop the world's dependance on russian gas because you brought it up in. Considering you are avoiding the answer in an emotionally charged way I bet the answer is nothing and that you own at least two motor vehicles and heat your home on natural gas (from Russia).


i've answered. you're dodging. what are you doing to stop putin?


The argument you made is about the importance of nuclear because of russian gas. So the question is - see above. If you already forgot what you wrote I would be extremely happy to quote you.


And I answered. Have troubles with reading comprehension?


Talk to me about reducing energy from nuclear after you've done something to reduce energy from russian oil and gas

what did you do?

I donated money to the Ukrainian army.

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Like I said, a special kind of stupid. Keep driving that SUV in your fight against Russian oil.




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