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And thus it always should? No. Carmack could apply his genius elsewhere, but he chose not to. I'd like to hear him explain why.


Do you honestly think there will be an explanation other than "they offered me a bunch of money to do $X"? Smart people aren't required to be self-righteous saints sacrificing themselves for the good of everyone else.


If you ask me, his reputation was the thing that was sacrificed when he joined Facebook.

His legacy is now: He was a brilliant pioneer in the first half of his career. Then he helped normalize and sustain an ethically dubious company.

I care because I used to respect him and I can't quite make sense of his choice.


I don’t think this will actually be his legacy, many of the world’s famous scientists and engineers worked for companies, empires, and a variety of unsavory groups. I mean Charles Darwin was part of a scientific expedition for the British military, which at the time contributed real world misery and suffering on a global scale but this rarely comes up when discussing evolution.

Maybe this time will be different or maybe after a few hundred years we trim details until it becomes a digestible snippet where you never mention the bad side.


Zuckerberg is probably the guy who will get figuratively crucified for the abusive shit Facebook did. Which is why it's crazy someone bright would be like, 'oh me too!'

I assume he sees it differently. I'd like to understand.


For 99% of all people in the world, Zuckerberg will always be known as a brilliant mind who created Facebook - the social network. Right up there with Einstein and Elon Musk. They don't know about any abusive shit, don't want to know, and will never know.


Yeah, time will tell. Ford and Edison probably lived similar lives. Their legacies are tarnished by their abuse now.


Ford and Edison are universally recognized as American greats - a genius businessman and a genius inventor. I don't know anything about any abuse they might have done, and I suspect 99% of Americans don't either.


Oh well let me help you out!

Edison publicaly electrocuted elephants in an attempt to paint AC, his competitor, in a negative light. He also colluded with other light bulb makers on the planned obsolescence of light bulbs.

Ford wrote the International Jew and received the highest honour Nazi Germany could give. Like Facebook, he is responsible for inspiring hatred in a large part of the world. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_International_Jew

Now you know some stuff! Share it with friends.


You're missing the point - 99% of people don't know this and will most likely never know. These two men will be forever known as greats. In fact, Ford's legacy is probably so significant that learning about his anti-Semitic views might actually influence some fraction of American population - not in the direction you hope for. You don't know my friends, sure you want me to share this with them? Be careful what you wish for.


I've seen Edison come under some criticism for taking sole credit for what was largely the work of his employees. That's a story as old as time though, and a good number of people think that's the way things should be, so probably not too much of a detraction.


Yeah, the credit thing, the monopolies, the collusion for planned obsolescence of light bulbs, the elephant killing. Basically he was an asshole.


To me his legacy might be something like “Godfather of VR. He set the bar high and pushed the market to strive for it. For some reason he handed the keys to the wrong people before it really hit big, but thankfully he also gave us _____ and _____.”

While I hope we get the closure of finding out why he sold to FB, I think he still has much to bring to the world.


Isn't Palmer Lucky the grandfather? He created occulus, the rift, and was the one who gave the keys to FB.


He certainly can be too. There’s no rules about there having to be a single grandfather.

What’s important to me about Carmack is that he was unwavering about the need for high fps and low latency through the entire pixel pipeline (as well as a lot of other things), and that he brought the skills to make it possible.

A VR industry based on a common denominator of 60fps with 10ms panel response times was very close to being the reality (and IMO that industry would have killed VR’s adoption for at least another decade)




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