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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egregore

"Egregore (also spelled egregor; from French égrégore, from Ancient Greek ἐγρήγορος, egrēgoros 'wakeful') is an occult concept representing a non-physical entity that arises from the collective thoughts of a distinct group of people."

For example, a state or AI - something that consistsnof people, but has a distict goals of its own.



I've been running into egregores (or at least the concept of egregores) a lot lately!


Human beings are not the top-level cognitive agents, there are egregores at higher levels of organization (related to memeplexes, meta-organisms, etc). It's just hard to define and talk about them concretely, our language is not well-suited to reason about agency above the human level. One century-old example of identifying an egregore is the meme "A spectre is haunting Europe — the spectre of communism." It's nothing supernatural, just like a combination of neurons computing each their own thing gives rise to a new agent (human), a combination of humans computing each their own thing gives rise to a superhuman agent (spectre of communism).


My opinion is that the Earth is the top level cognition with a hierarchy of lesser intelligences going all the way to the single cell. We exist in between and that is why the human condition is so depressing.


Thank you, I hadn't heard of the word before and I think it'll stick with me.

I think there may be some crossover or resonance with the ideas of:

- Carl Jung's collective unconscious and archetypes

- Arnold Toynbee and Oswald Spengler's view of civilizations as (pseudo) organisms.


I think it’s pretty self evident that groups of people working towards a goal are no less a single brain/organism than an individual human doing so. There’s no argument you can make about humans being an individual that doesn’t apply at a scale higher (and this goes all the way up to include all life on Earth imo.)

Language is just another dimension of message passing between neurons. Once I realized this most religions began to make total sense to me, I had been thinking of gods etc as beings existing independent of this universe-but really the just exist on this “plain” of existence stemming from it.




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