What is more popular than the Apache Foundation? I thought Apache was top... Is there a cooler/better Apache? If so, please let me know.
And when was Apache more popular? I thought it was the uncool place where stuff was written in Java, that became popular because people's conception of Java (and the language/ecosystem itself) changed.
Apache is both popular and “the place where projects go to die”. They have many, many projects that see limited development activity and aren’t well-known (how many projects in https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?name do you even vaguely know of what they’re about?)
I also think the popularity of the Apache license is part of what makes Apache popular.
> I thought it was the uncool place where stuff was written in Java
I'm sorry but I cannot trust an organisation headed by people who want to exterminate Muslims. If you feel differently, that's on you, and I urge you to reconsider your feelings.
At first the behaviour should be condemned. If the person refuses to change the behaviour, the person is now at fault for choosing the behaviour which they know to be condemned.
We have a problem with "he may be a really shitty person but we ignore that because he does the work". In some cases where that person does a lot of work, it may be unavoidable. In other cases where the person does only a small amount of work, it's a mistake not to push back on their bad beliefs.
A similar but opposite problem is pushing back too much on things that don't matter. E.g. a core python developer and inventor of Timsort just got a 3 month suspension for liking a comedy skit that used the word "slut", and for thinking that it's possible to discriminate against white people.
>We have a problem with "he may be a really shitty person but we ignore that because he does the work".
Social human endeavours where different people of different backgrounds come together to work towards a common goal universally suffer from this. This is in no way specific to software development communities. So I disagree, it's not a problem specific to the aforementioned domain.
>In other cases where the person does only a small amount of work, it's a mistake not to push back on their bad beliefs.
Therein lies the issue: no one person has a say on what is considered a "bad belief." This is exceedingly difficult when you work with persons whom are not from or steeped in west coast SV culture. Europeans do not have the same sensibilities as someone from San Francisco.
>E.g. a core python developer and inventor of Timsort just got a 3 month suspension for liking a comedy skit that used the word "slut", and for thinking that it's possible to discriminate against white people.
And when was Apache more popular? I thought it was the uncool place where stuff was written in Java, that became popular because people's conception of Java (and the language/ecosystem itself) changed.