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I feel like its sentiment like this why the liberal party is heading for a historic collapse.

"Everything is fine, just cancel disney+"

Like young people are struggling... really badly and it seems like the government has done everything they can to make it worse.

Most people I've met really don't Like Pierre Pollieve (myself included) but to say the current governments ineptness is propaganda is actually insane.



Well, that wasn't my comment at all. I was specifically stating that the "Canada is broken" rhetoric is largely propaganda. That is very different from saying "everything is fine".


Propaganda? I am the only one of my friend group with a house at 30 years old. Most have completely given up on home ownership, we just registered a 62B$ deficit and homelessness is the worse it's been in my living memory. Universities are balancing their budget by pumping their foreign student numbers and hospitals are so deep in the red access to a specialist for anything non life threathening like a dermatologist or allergologist puts you on a 22 months waiting list even with a physician recommandation...

Not sure what you definition of broken is, but considering our tax rate we are well within our rights to call it broken.


To most people those are not really so different. For something to not be broken means that it's mostly fine, more in order than not.


What do you call broken then?

Society is fundamentally not serving the prosperity of its younger generations. That is true in both the US and Canada. The wealth transfer upwards across generations is a breakdown of the social contract.

Millenials and younger have a great point, even if they articulate it poorly, and are being completely ignored but can't be for much longer. These demographics are just now coming into their political agency...


Your comment and the sibling comment touch on more or less the same issue - "what does 'broken' mean?".

We all agree there are problems, but does that justify saying "Canada is broken"? You start by saying that the US shares an issue with Canada. So is the US also broken? The sibling comment mentions other social and financial problems. Can we categorically say that a specific country is "broken" if it faces those issues?

From my perspective, calling a country "broken" is a very categorical statement, bringing to mind failed states, coups etc. I'm sure (or rather, hopeful) that we can all agree this isn't the case of Canada. When people say "broken" in this context, it is much more in the sense of "my car has a broken fuel line" than a commentary on how Canada is a Libya-style failed nation-state.

So in essence, "Canada is broken" is really "things are less good than they could or should be". That is the essence of my initial post - there are problems, yes; but the slogan is mostly inaccurate, ergo propaganda.

The "Canada is broken" people would also benefit from broader perspectives. I've lived most of my life in a developing country in the global south, so living here and seeing your definition of "broken" is a bit bewildering. I haven't lived here long enough to have seen how wonderful things were in the past decades, though, so who knows.




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