You literally say "No i would never support murder under any conditions" and then you identified the condition, warfare, under which you support it.

Right and

> If someone I know committed murder, like almost everyone - organized crime members are very few in the population - I would absolutely not overlook it. What an absurd argument.

Fails to define murder and focused on organized crime vs what if it was your best friend, wife, close relative etc. it’s easy to claim how you’ll react in an abstract scenario but revealed preferences often show something happening very different in reality than what people claim about theoretical situations publicly. Oh and as if it wouldn’t matter who the victim was. What if it was someone bullying your child viciously for months on end? What if they claim it was an accident and now you have to pick which story sounds more plausible?

And does “not overlook it” mean they cut ties with that person, turn them in, visit vengeance upon them?

You're just throwing crap at the wall hoping something will stick. It has nothing to do with me.

The idea that people support murder in those cases is pretty crazy. You are living in an Internet unreality.

If you think murder it’s easy to define, go look at how many different kinds of murder are defined in the US legal code and how every country defines it differently. And military kills are excluded even though definitively I fail to see the distinction between a war and political violence - it’s just external instead of internal. What is and isn’t murder is surprisingly hard to define and you’re either using a legal definition that’s a political compromise of different ideas or your own value judgement which is your opinion and not necessarily one shared with others. Seriously - try writing down what you think murder is in 3 sentences or less and see how far you are away from the legal code in your country.

In the us there is often a disagreement if something was self defense or murder.

You're hunting for internal contradiction rather than addressing the serious issues.

> You literally say "No i would never support murder under any conditions"

I do?