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I'm not a lawyer, or a designer, but those examples seem incredibly weak.

A generic tag icon next to the item price, in a different color? A "sale ending" notice with different color, location, and font?



Fab.com is not some amazing technology, it's not going to change the world with 1s and 0s, Fab is a brand and the way their website is presented is important to their brand. The style of something is the sum of all its parts, it's the way something is designed and presented. Sure, on the face of it having a clock next to the time to go is meaningless and sure having a tag next to the price is meaningless, but when you have a website made up of lots of things like that it becomes their "style".

To me it is absolutely certain that ToM made a concious effort to copy the style of Fab, through the composition and presentation of individual elements and the layout of the site.

Branding is very important and can very easily confuse consumers, maybe Fab are being overzealous and should have just asked ToM to stop copying their branding, but to claim that because lots of websites have clock graphics next to their timers that this isn't a copy is silly.


For trade dress infringement the design elements can't serve a utilitarian purpose. So clocks and price tags used as icons to convey meaning don't count.


I'm not arguing the legitimacy of the lawsuit, I'm arguing that Garry and ToM are being disingenuous claiming that fab.com are just trying to shut down their competition, when it's quite clear to me (and others here) that the style of ToM is copied from Fab.com.

Whether or not they will win in court is irrelevant, what matters is that what Fab.com is claiming (ToM copied them) is (in my opinion) an accurate claim.


>claiming that fab.com are just trying to shut down their competition

Their lawyers know that they most likely aren't going to win this--they're just trying to force them to pay legal costs they can't afford.

In essence they are pursing a fairly frivolous lawsuit for the sole purpose of removing competition.


There are a lot of different ways to do things. Any one of these alone would be meaningless. All of them together certainly suggests to me a probability that the author of the second page was substantially inspired by the first.


TIL substantially inspired is grounds for a lawsuit.

37signals should start suing all the SaaS websites that were inspired by Basecamp.


Poe's law for intellectual property law: I couldn't tell if this was sarcasm, or there really is a "substantially inspired" standard for trade dress.

A quick google shows that in fact this is sarcastic.


I meant substantially inspired as an understatement.




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