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It is sad, however, that he stole the research of Franklin and by today standards should be stripped from his honors.

And by today's standards, I mean those applied to everyday scientists, not the "important" ones that should not be disturbed.

A terrible person indeed.



He didn't steal anything. Franklin's PhD student took the famous Photo 51, Franklin was credited in the paper [1], and there's much more besides [2]:

"We are much indebted to Dr. Jerry Donohue for constant advice and criticism, especially on interatomic distances. We have also been stimulated by a knowledge of the general nature of the unpublished experimental results and ideas of Dr. M. H. F. Wilkins, Dr. R. E. Franklin and their co-workers at King’s College, London."

[1] https://dosequis.colorado.edu/Courses/MethodsLogic/papers/Wa...

[2] https://www.sciencenews.org/article/rosalind-franklin-dna-st...


Ah yes, he just took Rosy's pictures (she doe snot deserve her full nale) and then went on discussing what she wears.

I am a man who did his PhD in the 2000's. If my supervisor took my data and went on publishing them under his name, not only would I have kicked him in the ass publicly, but I would make my personal vendetta to crap his academic life.

She was a woman (with a not-so-nice character), in the 50s, so this would not have flown, obviously.

Let's not pretend he was not a crappy person in the name of a virgin academic world.


> If my supervisor took my data and went on publishing them under his name, not only would I have kicked him in the ass publicly

Setting your bizarre ranting aside, you appear to have misread - Franklin was the supervisor. It was her PhD student Raymond Gosling who took Photo 51:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photo_51


I used "supervisor" loosely here - both Watson and Crick were hierarchically above her.

As for "bizarre ranting" - I guess you have never had anything you did credited to somebody else. Good for you (seriously), but in that case please do not comment about the emotions of others.

If you did and think this is fine - well we live in different worlds then.


The only thievery here is yours. Just as we are expected to believe that Ada Lovelace invented programming, Hedy Lamarr invented Wi-Fi, and Margaret Hamilton wrote the software for the Apollo missions all by her lonesome, we must believe this, too. None of it is true, and when this is pointed out, the response is frothing accusations of misogyny that you've so aptly demonstrated.

Well, froth away. Watson and Crick discovered the structure of DNA and appropriately credited Dr. R. E. Franklin (not "Rosy") in their paper.


It is sad to see that whenever gender comes into play, emotions are high.

It does not matter that she was a woman - should they have stolen from a man (which here is also the case) they would have been thieves as well.

Do not put completely useless gender craziness in this. We are talking about one scientist using dirty methods to hide another scientist.


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> Ah yes, he just took Rosy's pictures (she doe snot deserve her full nale)

I took that as an accusation of misogyny and I'm unclear how else it could be interpreted. Watson named her as Dr. R. E. Franklin, so it can't be him that was being impugned.

Please also note the frothy inability to type - have I replicated that?

> don't deem worthy

Deem worthy of what?

You are demonstrating my point perfectly. You have no interest in what these women did (or did not) do, what their achievements actually were (and they certainly had them), they're simply a totem that you elevate beyond reason as proof of what a Very Nice Guy you are.

> as if you have them written down on an enemies list

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4141622/


One hundred percent agree with you. This is a perfect example where what's remembered as history is largely influenced by what was told by the victor.


Looks like Franklin won, then.


By today's standards, if I heard that some random ordinary scientist was stripped of their honors and was being widely labeled a terrible person in internet comment threads, I would seriously consider the possibility that they were the real victim in the situation.


Have you ever heard anything he said about women, gays, blacks, etc? He is the kind of guy I would not even approach, while so many people were bowing.

This is in addition to his stolen work of course.

The fact that he dies does not, fortunately, clear his name.




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