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>Venezuela is a hive of Russian, Chinese and Iranian activity in the Western Hemisphere. That is–long run–a problem for America.

Hmm, the Ukraine is a hive of American, British and German activity near Russian border. That is–long run–a problem for Russia. How does that sound?



> Ukraine is a hive of American, British and German activity near Russian border. That is–long run–a problem for Russia. How does that sound?

Like a bad reason to go to war. Same here.

I'm not justifying the war. I'm just saying the reasons are–or at least reasonably can be–more complicated than one dimension.


Bad or good, you call it a reason.


Sounds like Russian leadership should have known they're not a match for Americans. A costly misjudgement.


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What do you mean? Do you think that Ukrainian natonalists started the war and not Russia (or to reply in your tone - fans of Stalin)?


>What do you mean? Do you think that Ukrainian natonalists started the war

You could start by watching Bush Sr.'s speech in Kiev in 1991: "Americans will not support those who seek independence in order to replace a far-off tyranny with a local despotism. They will not aid those who promote a suicidal nationalism based upon ethnic hatred".[0]

Americans later did support them, of course. [1]

Fast forward to 2014:

"The night before the clashes, Right Sector called on all of its members to ready themselves for a "peace offensive" on 18 February. <...> That morning, around 20,000 demonstrators marched on the parliament building as that body was set to consider opposition demands for a new constitution and government. Around 09:45, the demonstrators broke through the police barricade of several personnel-transport trucks near the building of the Central Officers' Club of Ukraine and pushed the cordon of police aside. The clashes started after some two dozen demonstrators moved a police vehicle blocking their path to parliament." [2]

Right Sector is "the right-wing, paramilitary confederation of several ultranationalist organizations" [3]

After overthrowing pro-Ukrainian president who was predominantly supported by the Eastern Ukraine, pro-Western Ukrainian nationalistic "government" started what they cynically called Anti-Terrorist Operation in the Eastern Ukraine

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkjxf76xRTw

[1] https://www.businessinsider.com/john-mccain-meets-oleh-tyahn...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity#Protest_...

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_Sector


I'm Polish, I know how Russians are, I do not need to watch American sources for this or to listen to Russian guy trying to shift blame from his country :)


Why did you ask the questions if you react like this when you don't like the answer?


I know the answer - Russia invaded Ukraine unprovoked. Your answer is not really an answer - just rehash of russian propaganda.


So why ask? To call facts described in English Wikipedia and Western media "Russian propaganda"?


A lot of people do think exactly that.


>or to reply in your tone - fans of Stalin

You won't find any avenues in Russia named after Stalin. They were renamed after 1953 condemnation of Stalin's "cult of personality". Post-2014 regime in the Ukraine has renamed scores of streets after Ukrainian nationalists who collaborated with Nazis. The most cynical was the renaming of major avenue in Kiev leading to Babiy Yar (the place where thousands of Jews were massacred) to honor Bandera and the renaming of the avenue that used to honor Nikolai Vatutin[0], Soviet general who fought Nazis on the territory of Ukraine, after after Shukhevych[1], another Nazi collaborator and mass murderer.

You can easily find the names of these despicable people in Google Maps on the maps of Kiev and many other Ukrainian cities.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Vatutin

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Shukhevych


> You won't find any avenues in Russia named after Stalin.

Don't know about avenues, but Russians unveiled new statue of Stalin in Moscow in 2025.


Do we?



Deep underground on its historical place? I don't like it, not one bit, but is that all you could find in whole Russia?

Meanwhile here is the list of the streets named after Bandera in the Ukraine: https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Вулиця_Степана_Бандери


No, it's what I found in 2025 in Moscow, if I were to look in whole Russia I would find hundreds of these. I'm ending this discussion, unfortunately it's very typical for Russians to discuss like this - always deny anything wrong even when facts are very clear, and when it's impossible to deny then just downplay it or even say that the wrongdoing you do is actually good.


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Denial is not just a river in Egypt, товарищ. Soviet nostalgia has become central to Putinism and thanks to the non-stop brainwashing, in 2020 '75% of Russians agreed that the Soviet era was the "greatest time" in the history of Russia.'. This is used to justify the illegal invasion of Ukraine by the Russian terrorist state.

Any random Eastern European sees right through your bullshit, protomolecule.


  A new monument to Soviet leader Josef Stalin was unveiled in the southern Russian city of Volgograd on Wednesday to mark the 80th anniversary of the Soviet victory in the battle of Stalingrad — as Volgograd was known until 1961 — a key turning point in World War II. The bust of Stalin was installed near the Battle of Stalingrad Museum alongside those of Soviet World War II marshals Georgy Zhukov and Alexander Vasilevsky. All three monuments were designed by sculptor Sergey Shcherbakov, a Volgograd native. This is the second monument to Stalin to have been unveiled in Volgograd in recent years. The first modern memorial, a two-meter concrete bust, was opened near the local Communist Party headquarters in December 2019 to mark the 140th anniversary of Stalin’s birth. According to a law adopted by the Volgograd Duma in 2016, the city reverts to its Soviet-era name Stalingrad on certain public holidays, including Victory Day and the annual anniversary of the Battle of Stalingrad.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/02/01/stalin-monument-un...

Volgograd is a city with a population of 1 million.

  Authorities in northwestern Russia’s Vologda region unveiled a statue of Joseph Stalin over the weekend, the latest monument to the Soviet dictator to have sprung up in the country in recent years. At an unveiling ceremony, Vologda region Governor Georgiy Filimonov described the Stalin monument as “a step toward a sober, balanced view” of Russia’s past. Just hours before, Filimonov laid flowers at a local memorial dedicated to victims of political repression. “It’s difficult to overestimate Joseph Stalin’s role in shaping our country’s history,” the governor said. “Of course, there were tragic lows [during his rule], but there were also highs.” Filimonov added that Stalin’s memory should be “cherished” and “passed on to future generations” to keep Russia “powerful.”
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/12/23/new-stalin-monumen...

Vologda is a city with a population of 310k.

And so forth.

The most WTF of them all is erecting monuments to Stalin in occupied Ukraine.

  The Communist Party of Russia unveiled a monument to Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin in occupied Melitopol, Zaporizhzhia Oblast, on May 8 to commemorate Victory Day in World War II, the party announced. The statue carries a plaque that reads: "To the organizer and inspirer of the victory of the Soviet people over the Nazi invaders, Generalissimo of the Soviet Union Joseph Stalin, from grateful descendants." The ceremony was attended by Russian-installed officials and local school students who laid flowers at the site. Melitopol has been under Russian occupation since March 2022. Stalin's legacy in Ukraine is marked by profound suffering. Under his rule, millions of Ukrainians died during the Holodomor, a man-made famine in 1932–1933. The dictator also oversaw mass deportations, purges of Ukrainian intellectuals and leaders, and the suppression of the Ukrainian language and culture.
https://kyivindependent.com/russia-erects-stalin-monument-in...


>near the Battle of Stalingrad Museum

>near the local Communist Party headquarters

>near the Vologda Exile House Museum

And so forth. Nothing like renaming central avenue in the capital, what you see in the Ukraine.


Russian troll operations mirror the narcissist prayer short of 'they deserve it' + whataboutism

- There are no such monuments in all of Russia

- If there are, they raised by some guy in some insignificant villages

- If there aren't in insignificant villages, they're in next to communist landmarks which makes it ok

- bUt wHaT AbOuT UkRaiNe reNaMinG CeNtRal aVeNuE In CapItal!??!??!?!??!??!??




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