Snapdragon is already canceled so I guess, they just don't care about this device.
It's Microsoft on ARM. Sad to say, but don't expect full support or quality update on this.
The Snapdragon Dev Kit is canceled. Snapdragon as a whole sure as hell isn't canceled, and Windows on Snapdragon isn't, either. There's loads of Windows laptops using Snapdragon with more continuing to release.
It's just the "dev kit". Snapdragon for the laptop form factor is alive and well. You don't need a devkit for a laptop running Windows and QCOM easily figured that out.
I wanted to order one of these and then Qualcomm cancelled it.
Then I knew Windows ARM probably wasn't going to make it. Why any technical person would want a PC( not including Macs)that explicitly can't run Linux I'll never know.
Technical person that knows UNIX since being introduced to it via Xenix in 1993, and has used plenty of UNIX flavours since then.
Some of us like the experience of Visual Studio, being able to do graphics development with modern graphics APIs that don't require a bazillion of code lines, with debuggers, not having to spend weekends trying to understand why yet again YouTube videos are not being hardware accelerated, scout for hardware that is supposed to work and then fails because the new firmaware update is no longer compatible,....
Your comment appears to address the question "why use Windows" (even though the answer doesn't really make sense to me), but that's not the question asked in GP. The question was "Why buy a Windows on ARM device"
PCs aren't vertically integrated from a single vendor, and thus it isn't as if Microsoft alone can drag a whole ecosystem into ARM, even if the emulation would work out great.
Windows NT was also multi-architecture, and eventually all variants died, because x86 was good enough, and when Itanium came to be, AMD got a workaround to keep x86 going forward.
Even gaming doesn't work that great on Windows ARM.
They have the Surface line and own tons of game studios.
Where are the Gamepass games with Arm ?
Microsoft if they wanted to fund it right could get popular 3rd party software ported.
In retrospect it was hopelessly naive, but I even emailed Qualcomm asking if I could have a dev kit in exchange for porting one of my hobbyist games. They basically said thank you for asking but we don't have a program for this.
Now hypothetically let's say there was a Qualcomm Snapdragon Linux laptop. I could just port the code myself for most applications I actually need
These devkits are old and have already been released to consumer laptops over a year ago. So if you want to you can pick up pretty much any CoPilot+ PC. I'm not sure what your problem here is though.
Tuxedo is a german company relabling Clevo Laptops so far, which work out-of-the-box pretty good (I might say perfect in some cases) on Linux. They have done ZILCH, NADA, absolute nothing for Linux, besides promoting it as a brand. So now they took a snapdragon laptop, installed linux and are disappointed by the performance....Great test, tremendous work! Asahi Linux showed if you put in the work you can have awesome performance.
Yes but having to reverse engineer an entire platform from scratch is a big ask, and even with asahi it's taken many years and isn't up to snuff. Not to say anything of the team, they're truly miracle workers considering what they've been given to work with.
But it's been the same story with ARM on windows now for at least a decade. The manufacturers just... do not give a single fuck. ARM is not comparable to x86 and will never be if ARM manufacturers continue to sabotage their own platform. It's not just Linux, either, these things are barely supported on Windows, run a fraction of the software, and don't run for very long. Ask anyone burned by ARM on windows attempts 1-100.
> if you put in the work you can have awesome performance.
Then why would I pay money for a Qualcomm device just for more suffering? Unless I personally like tinkering or I am contributing to an open source project specifically for this, there is no way I would purchase a Qualcomm PC.
The original comment was "explicitly can't run Linux" which is explicitly not true. Not "it's not fully baked" or "it's not good", but a categorically unambiguously false claim of "explicitly can't run Linux" as if it was somehow firmware banned from doing so.
If someone wants to provide a link to a Linux iso that works with the Snapdragon Plus laptops( these are cheaper, but the experimental Ubuntu ISO is only for the elites) I'll go buy a Snapdragon Plus laptop next month. This would be awesome if the support was there.
Ref:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrA2Xe9f7e8 - https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2024/qualcomm-snapdragon-d...