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How much do you think is fair for being attacked by a superpower for no reason in illegal military action with war crimes sprinkled throughout.

Imagine it happened to you.



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The Ayatollah that the Americans assassinated under the guise of peace talks had a fatwa against having a nuke.

America has admitted that they (tried to and maybe were successful in) sending arms to the fifth column attempted uprising.

Try to get your information from somewhere that isn't American/Israeli propaganda.


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Try to get your information from somewhere the sun shines.


why do we care? there are many other countries around the world that are much worse and we are not sending our soldiers to die there or spending billions of dollars bombing various islands and mountains to fertilize them for next harvest season


That is us and Israel made up bull shit


When did the US "make up" the spraying of bullets at protesters in Tehran? 5,000+ dead people in the streets.


The ones armed by US? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic...

And provided with starlink: https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/u-s-smuggled-thousands... ?

Imagine russia or china sponsoring and arming protesters in US. The last time US was actualyl attacked it put 120k japanese people into concentration camps just because they were japanese.


> ones armed by US?

Were there any armed protests in Iran? I thought they were peaceful?


It's ironic that a country ruled by a pedophile and mass child murderer talks about how good or bad another country ruling class is. Wtf look at you own rulers and ruling class before worrying about what other countries rulers are doing. Most of you buy the bullshit of you being the good guys vs them being the bad guys there is no such thing.


The US attack on Iran was wrong but don't forget that Iran loves to lob ballistic missiles at Israel civilians.


> Iran loves to lob ballistic missiles at Israel civilians

Phew and I wonder why that might be!


Yea, I do wonder, why that might be? Why is a country 1500 miles away, that doesn't even share a common border, preoccupied with the destruction of Israel to the point it invested hundreds of billion of dollars in its offensive capabilities and network of proxies on every side of Israel, had a special paramilitary wing (Quds Force) for operations inside Israel, had a public clock counting down the existence of Israel and called for the destruction of Israel on each and every opportunity?

What's the obsession with the destruction of Israel? Could it be related to the fact that an Islamic Republic of (...) could not accept a Jewish rule right in the middle of the great Muslim Ummah?


So you really can't see what the problem is that the Israelis have caused in this region, can you.


In the spirit of this positive community, I'm looking forward to hearing about those problems.


Well, for starters just today they hit cental, civilian areas of Beirut with 100 attacks in just 10 minutes - killing more Lebanese civilians in ten minutes than Iran killed Israeli civilians in months of war. Absolutely vile, with clear genocidal intent, and with the aim of stealing Lebanese land.

That's just today...


You are ignoring the elephant in the room: Hezbollah was literally founded in 1982 under IRGC direction; 1,500 Revolutionary Guards deployed to the Bekaa Valley to organize and train it. It is arguably the most successful export of the 1979 revolution's "velayat-e faqih" ideology. So Iran colonized Lebanon.

Hezbollah formally accepts Khamenei as wali al-faqih the supreme juridical authority. That's not alliance, that's religious-political fealty to a foreign head of state.

Iran provides an estimated $700M–$1B/year, plus missiles, drones, training. Without Iran, Hezbollah's strategic arsenal doesn't exist.

It operates as a parallel state inside Lebanon (own military, telecoms, social services, foreign policy), displacing Lebanese sovereignty in the south and Bekaa.


You are ignoring the mammoth on the room: Hezbollah only even exists because of Israeli aggression; murder, rape, land theft, and as we saw yesterday, civilian massacres.

> So Iran colonized Lebanon

They haven't "colonised" anything, and, at best, it's disingenuous to describe training a resistance group as such.

> It operates as a parallel state inside Lebanon (own military, telecoms, social services, foreign policy), displacing Lebanese sovereignty in the south and Bekaa.

To claim the "officially recognised" Lebanese state is sovereign is utterly ridiculous! They are stooges, tasked with sitting back and doing nothing while Israel carries out ethnic cleansing and genocide. An MI6 front (Westminster Foundation for Democracy) even has an office inside the Lebanese parliament.

Turns out that if you take over a country's government and continuously carry out appalling attrocities against it's people for decades, they will resist.


"To claim the "officially recognised" Lebanese state is sovereign is utterly ridiculous"

Wow, this is quite a take. If Hezbollah doesn't have to respect Lebanon sovereignty then why does Israel?

"Turns out that if you take over a country's government and continuously carry out appalling attrocities against it's people for decades, they will resist."

This is just a insane conspiracy theory. Hezbollah is the organization that actually partially took over the Lebanese government with Iranian help.

Hezbollah attacks Israel with absolutely no concern for the damage Israels counterattacks will do to Lebanon.


> This is just a insane conspiracy theory

Absolutely disgusting - look at the massacres Apartheid Israel committed in Lebanon just yesterday.

> Hezbollah attacks Israel with absolutely no concern for the damage Israels counterattacks will do to Lebanon

That's the same logic wife-beaters use... "it's their own fault I hit them!".

I'm not going to engage any further with your genocidal rhetoric.


Israel would not be attacking Hezbollah if Hezbollah wasn't attacking Israel. Israel just wants to exist while Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran all want to destroy it. Don't expect Israel to just passively accept this. Try to imagine how the US would react to a Mexican cartel shooting rockets at El Paso. I couldn't feel sorry for that cartel when the US counterattacked.

Let me ask you a few questions

1) do you think Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran can defeat Israel with force?

2) do you want them to?


That’s unrelated to my question though. The obsession Iran has with Israel spans four decades now. It hasn’t started with any attack today.


That's simply not true - when, in Iran's entire history - has Iran attacked Israel without first being struck by Israel? Not once.

Iran's so called "obsession" is simply their desire to remain a sovereign state.


Israel's first ally in the Middle East was the secular Iran government under Mossadegh.....


Because they have a very deep and irrational hatred of Jews that stems directly from the way the koran talks about them.


Here's a comment to the contrary from another poster which I found illuminating: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47605903


The US and Israel have killed over 3,000 civilians in this war, mostly in Iran and Jordan. Iran has killed like 30. Their attacks are literally a hundredth of what they got and we're still trying to portray them as the bad guys. Don't get me wrong, Iran sucks, but not because of this


Iran has killed thousands of its civilians. The only reason it has only killed a few Israelis (excluding Oct 7) is because they can't easily get past Israeli defenses.


Jordan is a US ally, I think you are confusing it with some other country


The Shia Theocracy controlling Iran has killed thousands of civilians protesting their oppressive regime.


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide?wprov=sfla1

Not that long ago. Just a reminder.

If the USA and Israel had really wanted to stop evil regimes they could have gone to Sudan maybe?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Fasher_massacre?wprov=sfla1


What? Iran was attacked by israel numerous times, including today. It has the right to defend itself.

If anything, it's israel here that has attacked almost all countries in the area and annexed land from them ("buffer zones").


Israel also gets to pretend it has no nuclear weapons.


How does shooting ballistic missiles with cluster warheads at residential areas help defend Iran?


If what you said was true, we'd have seen many, many civilian deaths in Israel over the course of the war - there have, officially, been less than 50 (note that in the same time period Israel - which has targeted civilian infrastructure such as hospitals in Iran - has killed over 3,000 Iranian civilians!).

But what you're saying isn't true - any of it! Iran has been hitting military targets. And they've been using MIRVs, not anti-personell cluster munitions (you know, of the kind Israel has dropped over 1M of over Lebanon). MIRVs split into multiple, independently targetable missiles when high above ground near the target zone. Cluster munitions wait until they are only some meters above ground, and then explode into bomblets.


https://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2026/04/iranian-ball...

On April 6, as many as 50 sites were impacted by missiles and their cluster munitions.

“Iranian cluster munitions struck roughly 50 locations across central Israel, wounding at least six, including a seriously wounded woman in Petah Tikva and a moderately wounded man in Ramat Gan,”

Iran has focused on using cluster munitions in its ballistic missile salvos since the first two weeks of the conflict. However, the proportion of these munitions has increased. By March 10, Israel’s Home Front Command said that 50 percent of the Iranian missiles contained cluster munitions.

On April 1, The Times of Israel reported that “12 missiles carrying conventional warheads with hundreds of kilograms of explosives […] struck populated areas in Israel, causing extensive damage. There have also been more than 30 incidents of missiles carrying cluster bomb warheads hitting populated areas, with over 200 separate impact sites.” A ballistic missile attack on April 4, which led to at least 10 impact sites, illustrated how large an area can be affected by one missile with cluster munitions.


Bullshit, they are just calling MIRVs "cluster munitions" - they are not, and naming them as such will not make it so.


Iran is absolutely not using MIRVs. They are only used with nuclear warheads because they are very expensive. Iran is using good old fashioned cluster warheads where the bomblets are randomly dispersed, which is an evil weapon to use against civilians.


You are wrong[0], see Khorramshahr. Maybe Iran found ways to make them more easily produced. And there are videos where you can see missiles splitting into other missiles, some of which go in different directions.

As before, it's Apartheid Israel that uses cluster bombs (and white phosphorus too).

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khorramshahr_(missile)


You are wrong if you think Iran is targeting each sub-munition of the ballistic missiles it is firing at Israel civilians. No country has ever used any ballistic missiles that has conventional MIRVs because it simply doesn't make sense.

Iran is far more of an apartheid state because Jews are considered to be Dhimmis and officially discriminated against. Dhimmi status is not equality. Recognized-minority status under the 1979 constitution comes with hard ceilings: Jews cannot hold senior military, judicial, or executive positions; inheritance law historically favored any family member who converted to Islam (a Jew converting could inherit the entire estate from Jewish relatives, a direct incentive structure against the community); testimony of non-Muslims is weighted less in court; blood money (diyya) was unequal until reforms in the 2000s. The reserved Majles seat is one out of 290, tokenism, not representation.


lol you are so full of shit its incredible, but muslim lovers will do whatever it can do to come up with bullshit.


The funny thing is that many Sunnis don't consider Shia to actually be Muslims. Shia twelvers are obsessed with the 12th Imam who they think is still alive after 1150+ years while Sunnis don't care about this at all and consider the entire concept blasphemous.




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