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What's liberal identity politics have to do with leftism? Liberalism is a center-right ideology.

Us leftists are concerned with class issues, not identity issues.

Focusing on identity is nothing but a way to distract from class.



Lol. Gender ideology is very much a policy of left wing parties.

You may go for the One True Scotsman argument and say it's not proper leftism, and you may be right, but that doesn't stop it being policy.


You think Lenin was into gender issues? You think Lenin wasn't a leftist?


You think Lenin is alive now?

Name a gender-critical left wing party.


Perú Libre.

Your turn. Name a leftist party that's obsessed with identity politics.


UK Green Party UK Labour Party US Democratic Party


Those are all liberal, e.g. center-right. None of them argue for public ownership of the means of production, none of them argue for major redistribution.

When have you ever heard them talk of class warfare? Like I said, identity is a way to distract from class and you're currently falling for it.

Don't let the oligarchs deceive you, comrade. No struggle but the class struggle!


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Do any of them argue for leftist positions? I am not aware. Please use actual argument instead of assertions and derailment.


I see. This is some sort of weird purity spiral, where no party is left wing unless they meet your arbitrary chronically online standards that no-one adheres to in real life. Touch grass dude.


You still have not brought a single argument and continue your attempts at derailment.

It's okay to admit you were wrong.


I'm not in the habit of posting AI content, but as a 3rd party with no skin in the game in this conversation:

AI Overview

The UK Green Party is generally considered further to the left (left-wing), while the Labour Party is positioned in the centre-left of the spectrum. The Greens are seen as more progressive and socially liberal, often holding more radical policies, while Labour is described as an alliance of social democrats and democratic socialists.

UK Green Party

Position: Solidly left-wing.

Ideology: Eco-populism, social liberalism, and environmentalism. They are often considered the most left-wing of the main UK parties.

UK Labour Party

Position: Centre-left.

Ideology: Social democracy and democratic socialism.

Context: While traditionally a left-wing party, it has been described as moving closer toward the center in recent years under Keir Starmer. It is often described as having a wider range of views than the Greens, spanning from the centre to the left.

Left-Right Spectrum Breakdown (UK Parties 2024-2026)

Further Left: Green Party

Centre-Left: Labour Party

Centre: Liberal Democrats

Right/Right-Wing: Conservatives

Further Right: Reform UK




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