The fact that you call the uncropped image "pornographic" (which, yes, it technically is) when Playboy centerfolds are rather tame by modern standards kinda hints at the real problem here: the boring old American prudishness that has been masquerading as feminism as of late. I sincerely could not care less if Bellard had used Billy Herrington's toned ass as a test subject. The sooner that our society can get past this ridiculous fear of sexuality and the human body, the better.
Perhaps not coincidentally, Bellard is from France, a culture much more accepting of nudity and sexuality than ours. I would not be surprised if he had simply not considered the possibility of prudes across the pond getting outraged over such an innocuous thing.
Now show me a picture of a man from that dataset that could possibly be construed as sexual.
This is not a matter of prudishness. I would be totally fine (see my other comment in this thread) if researchers used both male and female crops, but they don't. So to make your point you need to show me all of the male French researchers who are accepting of male nudity in their image processing research. I would be very surprised if you could find me a single one.
>Now show me a picture of a man from that dataset that could possibly be construed as sexual.
>This is not a matter of prudishness.
There seems to be a contradiction here.
>I would be very surprised if you could find me a single one.
I agree, not because I think male French researchers would give a rat's ass about the cropped head of a naked guy appearing as a test subject, but because I doubt any would be foolish enough to poke the proverbial hornet's nest and incur the wrath of self-righteous west coast white guys tweeting on their iPhones.
You're missing the point, which is that it's not the specific image, but that testbeds use suggestive photos of attractive women and not men. You want people to feel free to use nudity or suggestiveness. Fine. I want them to be equal about which suggestive photos they use. As in not all women.
And now you're saying that French researchers don't care, but they do because they don't want to anger Americans? (And somehow they're all white, live on the west coast, and have iPhones?) What a crazy web you're weaving.
>This is not a matter of prudishness. I would be totally fine (see my other comment in this thread)
You mean this one? "Sexualizing women has nothing to do with image processing research." How positively libertine of you.
>You're missing the point
And you're missing my point, which is that if you really weren't a prude, you wouldn't care either way. Straight men like pretty women, straight women like handsome men, gay men like handsome men, gay women like pretty women, some people like some combination of the above, some guys 40 years ago liked a pretty woman, who gives a fuck? Stop being offended by extremely tame displays of sexuality.
>And now you're saying that French researchers don't care, but they do because they don't want to anger Americans?
You city slickers don't seem very good with jokes, do you?
I'd tell you to "lighten up" but I forgot that's code for "long live the patriarchy."
I open a men's magazine and see photographs of women.
I open a women's magazine and see photographs of... women.
These magazines exist because people are buying them. WOMEN are buying them. I don't see many men on the editorial boards of these womens' magazines, pushing for more attractive women in the magazine in ever-more-scantily-clad garb.
What do I conclude, other than that a lot more attention seems to be being "naturally" paid to women in general, especially in a superficial context?
What do I make of the fact that more than double the number of women are bisexual, than males are? And thus, a significantly higher percentage of people of all sexes find the female form interesting?
Women: The cause of, and solution to, all the world's sexism
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The fact that you call the uncropped image "pornographic" (which, yes, it technically is) when Playboy centerfolds are rather tame by modern standards kinda hints at the real problem here: the boring old American prudishness that has been masquerading as feminism as of late. I sincerely could not care less if Bellard had used Billy Herrington's toned ass as a test subject. The sooner that our society can get past this ridiculous fear of sexuality and the human body, the better.
Perhaps not coincidentally, Bellard is from France, a culture much more accepting of nudity and sexuality than ours. I would not be surprised if he had simply not considered the possibility of prudes across the pond getting outraged over such an innocuous thing.