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Given that Chrome (and Google in general) has possibly the best defensive security team in the world, it's hard for me to take these security-oriented forks too seriously. Indeed, the last "secure Chromium fork" I heard about, WhiteHat Aviator, turned out to introduce a bunch of new vulnerabilities:

https://plus.google.com/+JustinSchuh/posts/69qw9wZVH8z

Even if the fork doesn't add bugs, you are now relying on the fork's maintainer to push security updates. Will they be as good at this as Chrome's team? This is unfair, of course: no startup or small project is ever going to have Chrome's resources. But when it comes to security, speed of updates really does matter.



> Given that Chrome (and Google in general) has possibly the best defensive security team in the world, it's hard for me to take these security-oriented forks too seriously.

I think it depends on who and what you most eager to secure yourself from. If you think hackers are the greatest online threat, perhaps you should go with Chrome (if you chose between these two browsers). If you don't trust Google to stay classy when it comes to privacy and data collection, perhaps you could consider running a one or two versions old Iridium version of Chrome. Personally, I use Firefox. I prefer not to use a browser from a company that lives on data collection.

Chrome might be kosher now (to be honest, I don' know), but a decision at the headquarters can change that at the next automatic update.


Hmm, on a second look I see that Iridium appears focused on privacy, not security. In that case they should call it "private browser", not "secure browser". These words mean very different things.

Google's _security_ record is ridiculously good. Their _privacy_ record is at best questionable, and I can certainly see where people might be interested in a privacy-centric fork of Chrome.

That said, I was under the impression that all of Chrome's "phone-home" features can be turned off via settings.


The thing is, privacy is security: I'm not secure if someone else has access to my private information.

We're right back to the 'government backdoor' argument, only in this case it's the 'Google backdoor.'


>Personally, I use Firefox.

I seem to recall a recent hn post that made FF sound like a bit of a privacy disaster in its own right - specifically on the topic of addons (they all seem to phone home).


Yeah, the extension situation is supposedly questionable. I think you should always be wary with extensions. I usually limit myself to popular and open-sourced extensions.


Those add-ons are things you install yourself on top of the browser. What does that have to do with Firefox's privacy? Nothing.

Random software installed from the Internet can be harmful, who'd have thought!


Except that the browser is missing a lot excepted features and historically positioned itself as "just pile extensions on top of FF to get features we won't add or have removed".

adblock ? disable javascript ? mouse gestures ? download manager ? privacy protection ? duplicate tab ? and so on all are extensions because mozilla refused to implement or removed those features.


The Git tree is already outdated: https://git.iridiumbrowser.de/cgit.cgi/iridium-browser/log/, last commit 2015-04-09.

In the meantime, Chromium 42 has been released: http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.de/2015/04/stable-chann..., including a bunch of security fixes.


Apart from the obvious (it's branched off Chromium 41, whereas stable is 42 and contains security fixes), they turn off automatic updates, so it certainly doesn't seem like it could be a "secure browser". I agree with your other comment that it could be a "private browser", although (of course) those are not entirely orthogonal.

https://git.iridiumbrowser.de/cgit.cgi/iridium-browser/commi...

https://git.iridiumbrowser.de/cgit.cgi/iridium-browser/commi...


Yes. And Aviator is what happens when you put an unusually security-conscious team in charge of one of those forks.


> Given that Chrome (and Google in general) has possibly the best defensive security team in the world

That may be true now that Mozilla has utterly destroyed Firefox Sync's security, but it didn't used to be.

And it's still true that most of Sync's design at least tries to keep your privacy…private, whilst Chrome firmly believes that Google is all-loving, all-trustworthy and all-dependable, and thus deserves to have everything about you.




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